Decided to look it up, and the "we're doing too much for Israel" is only at 40% of Dems, higher than GOPs 30% but it isn't a majority even of her own party. And it's an even fewer willing to say no weapons or call it a genecide. It's certainly more people than it was a few months ago, but if you want the Dems to take a stronger stance, you'll need to push those poll numbers farther because her messaging is reflecting that.
Now that's not to say they're right, Americans in general aren't exactly the brightest or most informed bunch (see our response to 9/11, ugh), but representative government is going to reflect public sentiment. If you want to fight for Gaza, find ways to convince your neighbors or family members. If 60% called for a ban on weapons sales, you better believe it'll be reflected in the platform.
Can you link that poll please? I’ve seen it as well, but can’t find it again.
I’m pretty sure you’re misrepresenting it, one of the options was “uncertain” at around 35%. “doing too much” was the predominant view.
This is akin to saying “only 30% of Americans voted for Joe Biden and he somehow still won” neglecting to mention that you’re including non voters.
Ok, Google is a bit of a dumpster fire, but here's a few things retracing my steps:
This is two days ago, had to tell Google to look for recent. It's not what I'm citing but it echoes it. People aren't thrilled with CNN, but it's not the only source if you do the time limited search yourself.
If I didn't have two kids driving me crazy past their bedtime I'd search out more but the whole ordeal reeks of false consensus bias. Most people want to believe they're in the majority. But if it makes people feel better, the anti war minority is probably correct (and my guess is the real majority is just ignorance or indifference).
It is a good read, specifically "seven in 10 Democrats (68%) and more than half of Independents (54%) support restricting military aid to Israel".
Well we broke 60%, I'm waiting
We? You're including yourself among people who want to restrict military aid to Israel?
Why do you want Trump to win?
We as in the US. Because the comment was made "If 60% called for a ban on weapons sales, you better believe it'll be reflected in the platform."
What is with people like you making wild leaps in bad faith.
I was quoting the standard centrist line about anyone who has objections to genocide. I can't imagine why you hadn't encountered it before.
Ah maybe that's just me, I don't like to push stereotypes and make sweeping assumptions lol
Tell me again about how I'm forcing people to vote for trump by saying that Democrats have no business supporting genocide.
Because you're only attacking Dems for supporting it while ignoring how Reps are reacting to it. Only attacking one side very much seems like you are favoring the other.
Because you’re only attacking Dems for supporting it
Article's about a Democrat supporting it. You're only attacking Dems who oppose it.
I have no idea your "side", I'm not going after one side, you seem to be the only one calling out parties.
Decided to look it up, and the "we're doing too much for Israel" is only at 40% of Dems, higher than GOPs 30% but it isn't a majority even of her own party. And it's an even fewer willing to say no weapons or call it a genecide. It's certainly more people than it was a few months ago, but if you want the Dems to take a stronger stance, you'll need to push those poll numbers farther because her messaging is reflecting that.
Now that's not to say they're right, Americans in general aren't exactly the brightest or most informed bunch (see our response to 9/11, ugh), but representative government is going to reflect public sentiment. If you want to fight for Gaza, find ways to convince your neighbors or family members. If 60% called for a ban on weapons sales, you better believe it'll be reflected in the platform.
Can you link that poll please? I’ve seen it as well, but can’t find it again.
I’m pretty sure you’re misrepresenting it, one of the options was “uncertain” at around 35%. “doing too much” was the predominant view.
This is akin to saying “only 30% of Americans voted for Joe Biden and he somehow still won” neglecting to mention that you’re including non voters.
Ok, Google is a bit of a dumpster fire, but here's a few things retracing my steps:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-views-divided-us-policy-israel-hamas-war/story?id=109879453
That's in May, but it's a more popular link. That and a thing from Chicago foreign affairs which idk as well so I didn't link it.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/29/politics/israel-gaza-americans-poll-chicago/index.html
This is two days ago, had to tell Google to look for recent. It's not what I'm citing but it echoes it. People aren't thrilled with CNN, but it's not the only source if you do the time limited search yourself.
If I didn't have two kids driving me crazy past their bedtime I'd search out more but the whole ordeal reeks of false consensus bias. Most people want to believe they're in the majority. But if it makes people feel better, the anti war minority is probably correct (and my guess is the real majority is just ignorance or indifference).
Edit: it's 61% saying US is doing well there. Most of it is "somewhat" so it's not like it's 5/5 stars. The Chicago one actually is a good read and it's what the CNN one is based on I think. https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/americans-see-united-states-playing-positive-role-middle-east
It is a good read, specifically "seven in 10 Democrats (68%) and more than half of Independents (54%) support restricting military aid to Israel".
Well we broke 60%, I'm waiting
We? You're including yourself among people who want to restrict military aid to Israel?
Why do you want Trump to win?
We as in the US. Because the comment was made "If 60% called for a ban on weapons sales, you better believe it'll be reflected in the platform."
What is with people like you making wild leaps in bad faith.
I was quoting the standard centrist line about anyone who has objections to genocide. I can't imagine why you hadn't encountered it before.
Ah maybe that's just me, I don't like to push stereotypes and make sweeping assumptions lol
Tell me again about how I'm forcing people to vote for trump by saying that Democrats have no business supporting genocide.
Because you're only attacking Dems for supporting it while ignoring how Reps are reacting to it. Only attacking one side very much seems like you are favoring the other.
Article's about a Democrat supporting it. You're only attacking Dems who oppose it.
I have no idea your "side", I'm not going after one side, you seem to be the only one calling out parties.