Horse archers ruin every game they are in.

drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world to Games@lemmy.world – 55 points –

Who the hell finds it fun to either waste time trying to lure them into a trap or chase them down? And it's so much worse against ai because they don't need to micro manage the way humans have to so it seems whenever I use them they get wrecked under the first half assed volly from any unit. This applies to literally any game. Who has fun with this shit?

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The horse archers in civ 6 are so pathetically lame that the only reason to build even one is to get 3 points toward a golden age. The computer builds swarms of them, of course, but anything can kill them, even a recon unit.

I guess they wanted a change after Keshiks and Camel Archers being completely busted in Civ V.

I am mostly talking about bannerlord and total war.

In Rome Total War they are really nicely balanced imho.

Less about balance and more about them being fun to play against

Would balancing not make them fun to play against?

Not really. They still take a lot of time to deal with.

They're pretty easy to counter in Rome 2, you just need to remember it's necessary and not all-in on heavy infantry. Infantry skirmishers clap them right back to the steppes and there are good auxiliary cavalry options from the start available in Italy.

I definitely remember being frustrated when I first played it trying to chase them around with legionaries but the correct answer is don't do that then.

Ah, yes, mount and blade. Where not becoming a solo warrior of death horse archer is harder than not becoming a stealth archer in skyrim. If it helps, I liked to have big armies of the super ground archers and put two groups of shield infantry on the left and right of them. It seemed to work okay against horse archers.

I always create a horde of lance wielding heavy knights and just plow through everything. Even better if you equip all your companions with jousting lances and take mass prisoners.

Wasn't it so that you could wreck them with foot archers? Even if they can't fire further (don't remember if that was the case) having foot archer vs horse archer shootout was always really costly exchange for the horsey bois.