“One of the biggest functions of blocking is giving women the ability to stop weird men from constantly making them uncomfortable and scared,” one user wrote. “So of course Elon had to change that.”
Given how he constantly tries to insert himself and his opinions into everything he sees, it's clear he has no idea about how consent works, nor why people don't want him in their lives.
I honestly don't think it's a matter of him not understanding how consent works and more of a matter that he sees consent as something that gets in his way.
Or maybe just refuses to fathom that other people could not want to talk to him. If he has a psych file I'm sure it's darkly fascinating.
Consent doesn't matter to rich people. It's not exclusive to Musk.
Rather people have no idea how blocking on 𝕏 worked/works. You were ALWAYS able to see tweets from people that blocked you by simply logging out or using an alt account.
I don’t understand all this fuss about this simple change. He only removes a useless feature that was never more than a minor inconvenience for those that got blocked.
If you don’t want people to see your tweets, lock your profile. This worked before and this still works just fine.
You were ALWAYS able to see tweets from people that blocked you by simply logging out or using an alt account.
Well, yeah. It's a different account. That's how accounts work. Do you think one account blocking someone should result in every account blocking them too?
Having a public (i.e. not locked) Twit𝕏 account and believing you can block single people is a bit stupid to begin with.
When screaming on a market square, you can’t demand for single people to “please not listen” to what you’re screaming.
Well, I don't use Twitter. So that's all you.
But blocking accounts have been a thing for decades. It's not a new concept.
In closed systems like messengers, where you don’t see any content unless logged in, yes. There, it works brilliantly. But on Twitter, this is like cutting out something from a newspaper when there’s a news stand right next door.
Twitter has DMs, plus it helps by not allowing that person to reply unless they create a new account.
And it’s exactly like this now, if I understand the change correctly. They only removed the “you can’t see this post because the owner limits who can see it” thing. Blocked people still can’t reply.
Yeah. It works like a Discord block basically. (Ignoring that Discord doesn't block users in group voice settings.)
You do realize it's the same thing here, right?
Yep, that’s why I don’t get all this panicking about the Twitter change…
I don't think anyone is panicking.
Most people point and laugh at Twitter.
Locking your front door won't keep someone out who really wants to get in.
Is that stupid, too?
Of course, not. But closing and locking the door doesn’t prevent the person on the other side to still listen in on your conversations…
So then we should just get rid of doors?
When I block someone I do not care if they see what I post. I just do not want them to be able to interact with it. I don't want to see them. I don't want their opinion. But it's fine if they want to spend their energy fuming about whatever I post. Or more likely, simply who I am.
...and that's how it still works.
simply logging out or using an alt account
It is increasingly difficult to use X without an account. Not sure what the signup process is like nowadays. IIRC it used to require phone number verification in the Twitter days, but perhaps Musk relaxed the requirements in order to better pad the usage stats with spambots?
or, even better: delete twitter altogether
@mbirth@lemmy.ml And yet that minor inconvenience is enough of a hurdle that Musk thinks he has to get rid of it. Following a profile logged-out is impossible now, and alt-accounts are a pain to maintain. I'd wager that in way over half of the cases where someone is blocked, they do in fact then never see the blocker's posts because they don't run alts or view logged out.
Following a profile logged-out is impossible now
What do you mean? I can just open an Incognito tab and go to x.com/ and see all posts (without replies, though).
because they don't run alts
I think you underestimate the dedication of some of those trolls. Also, most apps allow to easily switch between profiles with like 2 taps.
Given how he constantly tries to insert himself and his opinions into everything he sees, it's clear he has no idea about how consent works, nor why people don't want him in their lives.
I honestly don't think it's a matter of him not understanding how consent works and more of a matter that he sees consent as something that gets in his way.
Or maybe just refuses to fathom that other people could not want to talk to him. If he has a psych file I'm sure it's darkly fascinating.
Consent doesn't matter to rich people. It's not exclusive to Musk.
Rather people have no idea how blocking on 𝕏 worked/works. You were ALWAYS able to see tweets from people that blocked you by simply logging out or using an alt account.
I don’t understand all this fuss about this simple change. He only removes a useless feature that was never more than a minor inconvenience for those that got blocked.
If you don’t want people to see your tweets, lock your profile. This worked before and this still works just fine.
Well, yeah. It's a different account. That's how accounts work. Do you think one account blocking someone should result in every account blocking them too?
Having a public (i.e. not locked) Twit𝕏 account and believing you can block single people is a bit stupid to begin with.
When screaming on a market square, you can’t demand for single people to “please not listen” to what you’re screaming.
Well, I don't use Twitter. So that's all you.
But blocking accounts have been a thing for decades. It's not a new concept.
In closed systems like messengers, where you don’t see any content unless logged in, yes. There, it works brilliantly. But on Twitter, this is like cutting out something from a newspaper when there’s a news stand right next door.
Twitter has DMs, plus it helps by not allowing that person to reply unless they create a new account.
And it’s exactly like this now, if I understand the change correctly. They only removed the “you can’t see this post because the owner limits who can see it” thing. Blocked people still can’t reply.
Yeah. It works like a Discord block basically. (Ignoring that Discord doesn't block users in group voice settings.)
You do realize it's the same thing here, right?
Yep, that’s why I don’t get all this panicking about the Twitter change…
I don't think anyone is panicking.
Most people point and laugh at Twitter.
Locking your front door won't keep someone out who really wants to get in.
Is that stupid, too?
Of course, not. But closing and locking the door doesn’t prevent the person on the other side to still listen in on your conversations…
So then we should just get rid of doors?
When I block someone I do not care if they see what I post. I just do not want them to be able to interact with it. I don't want to see them. I don't want their opinion. But it's fine if they want to spend their energy fuming about whatever I post. Or more likely, simply who I am.
...and that's how it still works.
It is increasingly difficult to use X without an account. Not sure what the signup process is like nowadays. IIRC it used to require phone number verification in the Twitter days, but perhaps Musk relaxed the requirements in order to better pad the usage stats with spambots?
or, even better: delete twitter altogether
@mbirth@lemmy.ml And yet that minor inconvenience is enough of a hurdle that Musk thinks he has to get rid of it. Following a profile logged-out is impossible now, and alt-accounts are a pain to maintain. I'd wager that in way over half of the cases where someone is blocked, they do in fact then never see the blocker's posts because they don't run alts or view logged out.
What do you mean? I can just open an Incognito tab and go to x.com/ and see all posts (without replies, though).
I think you underestimate the dedication of some of those trolls. Also, most apps allow to easily switch between profiles with like 2 taps.
@mbirth@lemmy.ml "Some of them", sure.
Which is not 90% of them. It's the exceptions.
If a block-button stopping read-ability works in 80% of the cases, it's better than one that works in zero percent of the cases.
Look at twitter.com/@elonmusk in a private tab.
Most of the posts you see are from 2022!?
The block button on Twitter has gone from 80% effective to 0% effective.
Well done Musk. Well done.
If anything, this stops giving people the illusion of privacy when they block people.