Holy shit that got spicy. I was not expecting a Ukrainian and a Serb to start bickering back and forth while stacking racks over the level of support a country gave to the Nazis in WW2 on a kernel mailing list like they were in the comments here on Lemmy.
I get that tensions are high, and for many people the geopolitical reality is their homes being used as cover on an active front line, but like bro your actual fucking name is attached to these messages. At least I keep my most unhinged shit on a semi-anonymous platform. They need to lock it the fuck up.
Edit - jfc, a few messages later somebody comes in with something along the lines of “Taiwan isn’t a country, it’s part of China. When reunification comes sanctions won’t be appropriate against Chinese entities.” Is Lemmy just a front end for this mailing list and I had no idea this entire time?
I thought you were joking, but yup they actually started quizzing eachother on WW2.
It's not the end of Linux by any means, but that's gonna be hard to work together afterwards
Jeeeeez that was a lot. I get the sense that the kernel has worked as well as it has because people saw it as separate from geopolitics and so didnt discuss them...now that politics has wedged its way in I feel like it may have opened that door permanently.
I'm optimistic, since technical arguments can be pretty heated yet they end like this:
At least I keep my most unhinged shit on a semi-anonymous platform.
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Geopolitics posters will no longer be contained by petty accusations of "bringing politics into it", the NATOids have drawn blood. There is no turning back now.
this is great 🍿🍿🍿
Taiwan isn’t a country, it’s part of China
This is not a hot take, it's the official position of the United States of America and 90% of the population of the world. Those who say Taiwan is its own country are radical fringe separatists.
Not even Taiwan claims to be a country though. They claim to be the sole legitimate government of China, hence their actual name, The Republic Of China, and not "republic of taiwan" or some other thing.
While it was true for a long time, I don't think Taiwan expects to get China back anymore. It's more not to start WW3 for the last 30+ years
Not even Taiwan claims to be a country though. They claim to be the sole legitimate government of China, hence their actual name, The Republic Of China,
Isn't that, by definition, calling yourself a country?
Wrong phrasing on my part.
No matter which side you ask, the Republic Of China (ROC) or the People's Republic of China (PRC) Taiwan isn't a country, it is a region of the country of China. Saying that Taiwan is a country satisfies neither the ROC nor the PRC's claims
That's why what Linus said was stupid when he brought WWII into this conversation...
They are not wrong though Taiwan isn’t a country. They have never declared independence their government has never officially given up their claim of being the rightful ruler of China. I have no idea why none of these have not been done.
Because China has always held it would start a full-scale invasion if they ever did. So everyone ignores the elephant and keeps the status quo...
Holy shit that got spicy. I was not expecting a Ukrainian and a Serb to start bickering back and forth while stacking racks over the level of support a country gave to the Nazis in WW2 on a kernel mailing list like they were in the comments here on Lemmy.
I get that tensions are high, and for many people the geopolitical reality is their homes being used as cover on an active front line, but like bro your actual fucking name is attached to these messages. At least I keep my most unhinged shit on a semi-anonymous platform. They need to lock it the fuck up.
Edit - jfc, a few messages later somebody comes in with something along the lines of “Taiwan isn’t a country, it’s part of China. When reunification comes sanctions won’t be appropriate against Chinese entities.” Is Lemmy just a front end for this mailing list and I had no idea this entire time?
I thought you were joking, but yup they actually started quizzing eachother on WW2.
It's not the end of Linux by any means, but that's gonna be hard to work together afterwards
Jeeeeez that was a lot. I get the sense that the kernel has worked as well as it has because people saw it as separate from geopolitics and so didnt discuss them...now that politics has wedged its way in I feel like it may have opened that door permanently.
I'm optimistic, since technical arguments can be pretty heated yet they end like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouTXff7lvq4
🔥
Geopolitics posters will no longer be contained by petty accusations of "bringing politics into it", the NATOids have drawn blood. There is no turning back now.
this is great 🍿🍿🍿
This is not a hot take, it's the official position of the United States of America and 90% of the population of the world. Those who say Taiwan is its own country are radical fringe separatists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_China#United_States_policy
Not even Taiwan claims to be a country though. They claim to be the sole legitimate government of China, hence their actual name, The Republic Of China, and not "republic of taiwan" or some other thing.
While it was true for a long time, I don't think Taiwan expects to get China back anymore. It's more not to start WW3 for the last 30+ years
Isn't that, by definition, calling yourself a country?
Wrong phrasing on my part.
No matter which side you ask, the Republic Of China (ROC) or the People's Republic of China (PRC) Taiwan isn't a country, it is a region of the country of China. Saying that Taiwan is a country satisfies neither the ROC nor the PRC's claims
That's why what Linus said was stupid when he brought WWII into this conversation...
They are not wrong though Taiwan isn’t a country. They have never declared independence their government has never officially given up their claim of being the rightful ruler of China. I have no idea why none of these have not been done.
Because China has always held it would start a full-scale invasion if they ever did. So everyone ignores the elephant and keeps the status quo...