Sure, they're against it, but if it gets implemented by Chrome and by many major websites, they won't have a choice but to implement it as well. Otherwise, their browser just won't work and people will have to use Chromium browsers or nothing at all.
Honestly, they could have good grounds for an antitrust lawsuit if this API comes to pass and everyone uses Google attestation servers. It's gardenwalling the browser space just like Microsoft was.
Honestly, they could have good grounds for an antitrust lawsuit
And what was the last successful antitrust suit? It wasn't Microsoft. They just dragged out the trial until they had a favorable administration settle with them.
That would be a great anti trust suit if the US actually enforced anti trust laws, but they don't. If you're not already a dominant semi-monopoly, you can buy and do whatever honestly.
Then don't use Google. I'm slowly but surely working towards degoogling myself. Not there quite yet, but I'm working on it.
^ Free anonymous email, for the B/S that asks for an email when they got no business with one.
The whole point is that non-Chromium browsers might lose functionality on a significant portion of major websites. Imagine if Amazon, Netflix, and Youtube suddenly stopped working in Firefox. How many Firefox users would tolerate that?
You are not limited to using one browser at a time. Use firefox as much as you please. You can use google if you must.
Sure, because the average user won't think his Firefox to be broken and just switch to chrome altogether. Chrome has no issue with that site after all. Once enough pages have it even most technically inclined people will probably not want to constantly juggle between browsers, just to use their banking site or whatever.
I don't use Amazon or Netflix in the first place. Plus the FTC is going after Amazon anyways...
Ok, but you can see how perhaps other people might care, right? Like you're not a complete psychopath, right?
Not my problem you people fell into the corporate trap. I saw it coming as far back as 2011.
I like your tude dude!
Everyone is whining while still holding on to big corps balls.
I don't care about x thing, it doesn't affect me
Then next year
Why are they killing "y thing that affects me"
Attitudes like that are a big factor in our current culture war.
I'm using actual solid services established in the late 90's that still work today. I have terabytes of data stored, and it's not through Google or iCloud.
Don't care, I already predicted half of this crap over a decade ago. Nobody wants to listen to me though.
Oh well, not my problem.
Your recommendation isn't wrong, but it's a mistake to think problems like this can be solved with a mere boycott. This absolutely requires consumer protection legislation.
Funny, note that that website uses DRM content. I have DRM disabled on Firefox and when I visit that site I get two DRM warnings.
I noticed that too after I posted that comment. Must be a recent change. ☹️
Mozilla has been bullied exactly this way in the past into implementing DRM measures I believe.
I already use ff and if there's a site that requires drm to work, i don't care for that site. They need visitors not the other way around.
I don't understand why others like Brave, Opera, Vivaldi..etc are silent on this big of a threat.
Mozilla has already posted their protest to this...
https://lemmy.ml/post/2481063
Sure, they're against it, but if it gets implemented by Chrome and by many major websites, they won't have a choice but to implement it as well. Otherwise, their browser just won't work and people will have to use Chromium browsers or nothing at all.
Honestly, they could have good grounds for an antitrust lawsuit if this API comes to pass and everyone uses Google attestation servers. It's gardenwalling the browser space just like Microsoft was.
And what was the last successful antitrust suit? It wasn't Microsoft. They just dragged out the trial until they had a favorable administration settle with them.
That would be a great anti trust suit if the US actually enforced anti trust laws, but they don't. If you're not already a dominant semi-monopoly, you can buy and do whatever honestly.
Then don't use Google. I'm slowly but surely working towards degoogling myself. Not there quite yet, but I'm working on it.
https://dispostable.com
^ Free anonymous email, for the B/S that asks for an email when they got no business with one.
The whole point is that non-Chromium browsers might lose functionality on a significant portion of major websites. Imagine if Amazon, Netflix, and Youtube suddenly stopped working in Firefox. How many Firefox users would tolerate that?
You are not limited to using one browser at a time. Use firefox as much as you please. You can use google if you must.
Sure, because the average user won't think his Firefox to be broken and just switch to chrome altogether. Chrome has no issue with that site after all. Once enough pages have it even most technically inclined people will probably not want to constantly juggle between browsers, just to use their banking site or whatever.
I don't use Amazon or Netflix in the first place. Plus the FTC is going after Amazon anyways...
https://chat.maiion.com/post/179544
Act like I care..
Ok, but you can see how perhaps other people might care, right? Like you're not a complete psychopath, right?
Not my problem you people fell into the corporate trap. I saw it coming as far back as 2011.
I like your tude dude!
Everyone is whining while still holding on to big corps balls.
Then next year
Attitudes like that are a big factor in our current culture war.
I'm using actual solid services established in the late 90's that still work today. I have terabytes of data stored, and it's not through Google or iCloud.
Don't care, I already predicted half of this crap over a decade ago. Nobody wants to listen to me though.
Oh well, not my problem.
Your recommendation isn't wrong, but it's a mistake to think problems like this can be solved with a mere boycott. This absolutely requires consumer protection legislation.
Funny, note that that website uses DRM content. I have DRM disabled on Firefox and when I visit that site I get two DRM warnings.
I noticed that too after I posted that comment. Must be a recent change. ☹️
Mozilla has been bullied exactly this way in the past into implementing DRM measures I believe.
I already use ff and if there's a site that requires drm to work, i don't care for that site. They need visitors not the other way around.
I don't understand why others like Brave, Opera, Vivaldi..etc are silent on this big of a threat.
Vivaldi has a post on their blog regarding this.
Glad to see them joining the protest. I hope this doesn't get implemented.
Most of those are Chrome with a different front end...
https://lemmy.today/post/158549
It hasn’t even been a week. They’re responding
You just listed a bunch of Chromium browsers. They don't care.