Elia Bonci, who also spoke to la Repubblica, said: “I took courage, used my deadname and signed up for Miss Italy because fighting transphobia is intersectional and even though I’m not a trans woman, I’ve decided to fight for their rights.”
much respect to all that followed!
I'm confused. If they are using a dead name how are they not trans?
They are trans men, who the organizers consider women as opposed to the trans women who can't compete because they consider them men.
I'm gonna need a pen and paper for this one.
I'll summarize:
The contest organizers don't accept trans women (AKA assigned male at birth, transitioned to female)
This means that they are being transphobic, they aren't treating trans women as women.
The person in the article is the opposite, assigned female at birth and transitioned to male. AKA a trans man.
This person is considered a woman by the beauty contest despite identifying as male.
He entered the beauty contest as a form of protest and to bring attention to the blatant transphobia.
“Transphobia” idk I just think they don’t want certain ideologies in their shows. Makes sense to me but you guys will probably start spamming slurs at me if I keep speaking so…
Edit: I agree the rules are dumb and contradictory but calling it transphobia is just hilarious to me
"We exist" isn't an ideology.
Fair but I just thought calling it transphobia was over the top
You are actually a little bit correct.
Most uses of the misnomer "transphobia" are actually incorrect, because the people involved aren't actually suffering from an irrational medical or psychological fear of transgender people.
What they actually are doing is more accurately called "transmisia", because they are transmisic. This means they are heavily prejudiced against transgender women and believe that they shouldn't be involved in the competitions.
Their reason for this are not because the transgender women don't meet the beauty standards, or aren't passing the judging categories, but because they just don't want them there purely due to their trans-mysogynistic preconceptions.
You are actually a little bit incorrect.
In the vein of words like homophobia, these words' definitions are not strictly in line with their etymology. Per every dictionary (but quoting Webster), transphobia is defined as:
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against transgender people
And this might create some linguistic ambiguity, but I cannot seem to find actual documentation on a medical or psychological fear of transgender people at all. It seems this behavior is entirely (or almost entirely) a learned bigotry.
The other word, "transmisia", has not really been officially adopted in any circle I can find. The only place I could find it with any prominance is a site called the "Trans Language Primer", and I know nothing about it (except that it looks like geocities) so I won't be linking it directly. Suffice to say, they speak negatively of the term (despite defending it as having a good intention) and favor "transphobia" for reasons of clarity.
So like, according to the organizers, if they were born with a penis, it doesn't matter if they transitioned, they are considered men.
This trans man (a person born with a vagina who transitioned ) is entering the contest, because if trans women are considered men, trans men are considered women.
So this dude is entering a "female" beauty contest to show how dumb the rules are. He is allowed to do so because said dumb rules make him a woman in the eyes of the organization.
We need a powerpoint explaining the 5D transphobia.
Think the others were missing the point - they are trans men. Their dead name is their dead female name.
The ruling was to prevent trans women from competing, so while they can't stand for trans women, they'll stand for all trans.
much respect to all that followed!
I'm confused. If they are using a dead name how are they not trans?
They are trans men, who the organizers consider women as opposed to the trans women who can't compete because they consider them men.
I'm gonna need a pen and paper for this one.
I'll summarize:
The contest organizers don't accept trans women (AKA assigned male at birth, transitioned to female)
This means that they are being transphobic, they aren't treating trans women as women.
The person in the article is the opposite, assigned female at birth and transitioned to male. AKA a trans man.
This person is considered a woman by the beauty contest despite identifying as male.
He entered the beauty contest as a form of protest and to bring attention to the blatant transphobia.
“Transphobia” idk I just think they don’t want certain ideologies in their shows. Makes sense to me but you guys will probably start spamming slurs at me if I keep speaking so…
Edit: I agree the rules are dumb and contradictory but calling it transphobia is just hilarious to me
"We exist" isn't an ideology.
Fair but I just thought calling it transphobia was over the top
You are actually a little bit correct.
Most uses of the misnomer "transphobia" are actually incorrect, because the people involved aren't actually suffering from an irrational medical or psychological fear of transgender people.
What they actually are doing is more accurately called "transmisia", because they are transmisic. This means they are heavily prejudiced against transgender women and believe that they shouldn't be involved in the competitions.
Their reason for this are not because the transgender women don't meet the beauty standards, or aren't passing the judging categories, but because they just don't want them there purely due to their trans-mysogynistic preconceptions.
You are actually a little bit incorrect.
In the vein of words like homophobia, these words' definitions are not strictly in line with their etymology. Per every dictionary (but quoting Webster), transphobia is defined as:
And this might create some linguistic ambiguity, but I cannot seem to find actual documentation on a medical or psychological fear of transgender people at all. It seems this behavior is entirely (or almost entirely) a learned bigotry.
The other word, "transmisia", has not really been officially adopted in any circle I can find. The only place I could find it with any prominance is a site called the "Trans Language Primer", and I know nothing about it (except that it looks like geocities) so I won't be linking it directly. Suffice to say, they speak negatively of the term (despite defending it as having a good intention) and favor "transphobia" for reasons of clarity.
So like, according to the organizers, if they were born with a penis, it doesn't matter if they transitioned, they are considered men.
This trans man (a person born with a vagina who transitioned ) is entering the contest, because if trans women are considered men, trans men are considered women.
So this dude is entering a "female" beauty contest to show how dumb the rules are. He is allowed to do so because said dumb rules make him a woman in the eyes of the organization.
We need a powerpoint explaining the 5D transphobia.
Think the others were missing the point - they are trans men. Their dead name is their dead female name.
The ruling was to prevent trans women from competing, so while they can't stand for trans women, they'll stand for all trans.