Megathread, Special Prosecutor Jack Smith Indicted Trump on 3 more felony charges.

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What gets me is how lowbrow and petty all this is and yet so many people just act like it doesn’t exist. I mean, the universe served up the most obvious villain doing the worst job of criming that I’ve ever seen. I mean his antics are nearly indistinguishable from scooby doo, I’m expecting someone to have a mask pulled off, find out it’s trump who then somehow gets away with it all despite meddling from those kids.

I feel like the entire world has been pranking me specifically to see how long I can believe that my fellow humans are capable of believing this.

how long I can believe that my fellow humans are capable of believing this.

stop assuming they're stupid and start realizing that they see in his corruption a chance to do a little bit of corruption of their own, maybe some political violence, all the absolute worst urges in them. they see in him the real liberty they've been seeking: the freedom to harm others and enrich themselves. they claim to believe, but really they're just relying on the fact that you can't actually go into their brains and prove that they don't.

The WWE crowd took an interest in national politics. It was inevitable, and the results sadly predictable.

It'll take a generation for them to get bored with it again and go away, but for now were stuck with them.

(Don't look them in the eye, it just provokes them.)

Dude no. I'm a wrestling fan, I have friends who are wrestling fans, and trust me, absolutely none of us are buying this shit. Even as a wrestling storyline, this does not make sense.

Busted. You're right. Full stop.

I'll own the intellectualism in my position. In my locale, the people who host and invite me to their WWE PPV events are "truthy," or I would not have made the accusations. The bias is mine.

So I'll own that I made an out-class of WWE fans if you can agree that some of those fans fit the mold I described, and their position on it is not acceptable. My in-class are JUST as insufferable, and In will happily throw them under the same bus.

Thanks for challenging sloppy opinions online. 🍻

Oh for sure. This is probably an occasion where the venn diagram of groups I cross over with is a little sketch, but still lol

I predict a significant number would get bored when Trump either dies or ends up in prison, and can't get his face in front of news cameras nearly so easily.

you're underestimating how gay and self-aware wrestling is right now by some distance.

I'm not comfortable with the implied homophobia in your comment, but I don't know what to do about it

I actually thought the implication was the opposite, as in the WWE is not nearly as conservative as the people who watch it.

that was almost it. for the WCW that I grew up with in the 80s and 90s it would have been exactly it. people tended to forget that wrestling is theater, the tyler durden effect takes hold and people who are (or aspire to be) like the characters these wrestlers play miss out on the fact that these are characters being played by actors. the audience wasn't guaranteed to be 100% in on the joke.

nowadays everyone knows. kayfabe is permanently broken and everyone is having a fabulous time. CM Punk shows up with a sign that says "support trans youth", Anthony Bowen has a storyline where one of the female wrestlers tries to seduce him only to be shut down by the crowd spontaneously (and very supportively) chanting "He's gay". There are dozens of out LGBTQ wrestlers across the major and minor promotions. Professional wrestling is very gay. It always has been, but only in the era of the smart mark have they started to be open about it and that openness has helped them find a shockingly deep well of support among the fans.

Yeah people have unrealistic expectations of villainy these days after hollywood set the bar so high with all their criminal mastermind tropes. I suppose it's a good thing that most criminals are really dumb because as you said, half the country barely cares. If he'd been even remotely smart about it..

I know right? Everyone keeps calling him a mob boss, but I'd say he's more the mob boss who's so fucking stupid, he doesn't know not to say the quiet part out loud.

The only occupation that could be worse would be a spy that's too stupid to know not to say the quiet part out loud, so let's be glad Trump wasn't charged with... Ooooooh....