Maybe a one time payment like for original sync, imagine supporting subscription services for a FOSS app 🤡🤡🤡
except sync isn't FOSS, lemmy the fediverse link aggregator is 🤡🤡🤡
I'm obviously referring to lemmy when I say foss app, you think you look smart being a contrarian?
except lemmy isn't an app, it's a platform. sync is a lemmy app.
taken from the website:
"Lemmy is a selfhosted social link aggregation and discussion platform."
so if anything it's you who is the contrarian, lol. but I digress ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ignoring my argument twice in favour of nitpicking words, youre not a contrarian keep going
now that's the good old Reddit I used to know
Reading that argument makes me feel like we've made it as a platform 👍
🤝
made a whole meme to defend nitpicking words, 3 replies so far nitpicking my words and ignoring my original argument like a true contrarian, keep going
could've worded it better
only one of those 2 is foss app the answer was obvious but the contrarian wanted an excuse to reply to me with the clown emoji back
Perhaps when you create your own app you can determine your own cost model.
"Dont judge politicians unless youre one of them" nice mindset bro
If you'd like to have a real conversation, I'm willing. If you want to pretend to argue things no one claimed, you're on your own.
I tried an analogy since you didnt see the fallacy of your point, that failed too I guess, telling me dont judge the dev unless youve been in their shoes would mean u cant judge politicians either, I can and should have opinion on stuff regardless
Again, point me to where I said don't judge. I didn't. Judge away.
If you look at my post again, you'll find that I tried to suggest that when you make your own app (and you should), you should decide on your cost model which sounds like it'll be free. I eagerly await your release!
Not replying to my points and telling me I wait for your app is called an ad hominem, is this how you reply to people in real life?
So what is your point exactly? That you shouldn't charge for software you develop to access a free network? There are plenty of free solutions for you.
Yes not paying for a subscription to remove ads like the original sync app = not getting paid, youre already making up arguments so go ahead and make up my reply too why bother asking me
politicians are meant to be judged devs are meant to be criticized just for improvement, you can just use another app
Sure? I only criticized ill stick to liftoff since theres only subscription option
he has literally said he will add an one time payment
It is already implemented in the newest update
current comments defend his current actions so no opinion on that until it happens.
PS: weird how the no ads option takes more time to develop than the subscription option with 10x features, INCLUDING the no ads one !
it is still in beta, you can't charge someone 30 euros for something that might fail or stop
30$? That's only 6x the original ad-free sync price, I take all my greediness comments back !
sync for reddit price (there was a pro version too) as you can see the price is reasonable. Where did you find a 6x increase?
You're showing the price for sync ultra, he's referring to the price for ad-free sync, which was like $2-3
You are comparing the old simple "Remove Ads" option to Sync Ultra features.
The new "Remove Ads" without additional features costs 14,99 €. Which, yes, is more expensive than before, but that was to be expected. The old price would have been way too cheap for today's pricing situation, especially since he also lost most of his userbase.
"today’s pricing situation" u mean 2 months ago?
Also "hes lost most of his userbase"
selling 50$ tshirt for 500$ because there are less customers and I want even less
what is this argument lmfao
The price was set many years ago and just never changed.
Also yes, less customers means less income for mostly the same amount of work.
That is literally why bigger companies can offer cheaper prices. Scale.
What scale dev doesnt have a factory theres no production, company size doesnt matter
Lemmy is funded by Patreon/Liberapay.... Which are essentially subscriptions
their default model isnt based on ads like sync for lemmy
a third party client isnt as much work as the fediverse as u see it took him a month
3)ads used to be a one time payment for his old app, so the money was enough for him back then and now hes even richer so why do you excuse his greediness?
It took him a month because he adapted a code base he had been working on for a decade.
It's not greediness to want to be able to pay your bills. This is his job. Also a single payment option has already been developed it's just not made in live yet.
He was already paying his bills with the one time payment and now hes even richer, this is the definition of greediness. Also his future plans are irrelevant here I am judging his current actions and the OP comment defending them.
PS, weird how the no ads feature takes longer to develop than the recurring payment with 10 features, INCLUDING the no ads one!
Why do you assume he's rich?
I said rich-ER buddy, how did you miss the one word? One time payment was enough when he had even less money back when he didnt have the reddit money yet so theres no excuse to hide no ads option behind a subscription model, especially for a foss platform, its not like its a reddit client and pays for api
Sync for reddit also had a subscription model
Which didnt have the no ads offer, which is what my one time payment is referring to.
Sync for Lemmy v25 already has a one time purchase
2.5x the price of the original sync app until a month ago, I retract my greediness comments
Who cares if he is rich. He is making a good product and people want that product. He can charge whatever he wants, there is no point taking it personally. If you don't want to pay, there is no one forcing you - you can even continue to use the app for free if you want.
Sure he can charge whatever, I'm just calling out his greediness idk what's your point
If getting paid for the work you do that people are willing to pay for is greedy, then yes I suppose he is greedy, and so are everyone else who works for a living and try to up their earnings.
If getting paid for the work you do that people are willing to pay for is greedy
Not charging more than double the price of his product in the span of one month equals to not supporting people get paid, lets end this convo here since u wanna troll ( im nice and dont assume your reading comprehension is that bad instead)
That's fine, we can agree to disagree.
Its fine if u feel like paying 2.5x more money for the same features in the span of one month, just dont push your bs onto others
I don't know what you mean by paying 2.5x in the span 1 month.
I also paid for Sync Ultra for Reddit if you are referring to that app.
the permanent ad free option, which now costs 2.5x more, but I cant oppose it or the dev will go hungry apparently
Ad 2.
Tell me you know nothing about software development without telling me you know nothing about software development
Charging 2.5x more in the span of one month for the same feature is the essence of software development and people cheer u for it? Sheesh im in the wrong business
Maybe a one time payment like for original sync, imagine supporting subscription services for a FOSS app 🤡🤡🤡
except sync isn't FOSS, lemmy the fediverse link aggregator is 🤡🤡🤡
I'm obviously referring to lemmy when I say foss app, you think you look smart being a contrarian?
except lemmy isn't an app, it's a platform. sync is a lemmy app.
taken from the website:
"Lemmy is a selfhosted social link aggregation and discussion platform."
so if anything it's you who is the contrarian, lol. but I digress ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ignoring my argument twice in favour of nitpicking words, youre not a contrarian keep going
now that's the good old Reddit I used to know
Reading that argument makes me feel like we've made it as a platform 👍
🤝
made a whole meme to defend nitpicking words, 3 replies so far nitpicking my words and ignoring my original argument like a true contrarian, keep going
could've worded it better
only one of those 2 is foss app the answer was obvious but the contrarian wanted an excuse to reply to me with the clown emoji back
Perhaps when you create your own app you can determine your own cost model.
"Dont judge politicians unless youre one of them" nice mindset bro
If you'd like to have a real conversation, I'm willing. If you want to pretend to argue things no one claimed, you're on your own.
I tried an analogy since you didnt see the fallacy of your point, that failed too I guess, telling me dont judge the dev unless youve been in their shoes would mean u cant judge politicians either, I can and should have opinion on stuff regardless
Again, point me to where I said don't judge. I didn't. Judge away.
If you look at my post again, you'll find that I tried to suggest that when you make your own app (and you should), you should decide on your cost model which sounds like it'll be free. I eagerly await your release!
Not replying to my points and telling me I wait for your app is called an ad hominem, is this how you reply to people in real life?
So what is your point exactly? That you shouldn't charge for software you develop to access a free network? There are plenty of free solutions for you.
Yes not paying for a subscription to remove ads like the original sync app = not getting paid, youre already making up arguments so go ahead and make up my reply too why bother asking me
politicians are meant to be judged devs are meant to be criticized just for improvement, you can just use another app
Sure? I only criticized ill stick to liftoff since theres only subscription option
he has literally said he will add an one time payment
It is already implemented in the newest update
current comments defend his current actions so no opinion on that until it happens.
PS: weird how the no ads option takes more time to develop than the subscription option with 10x features, INCLUDING the no ads one !
it is still in beta, you can't charge someone 30 euros for something that might fail or stop
30$? That's only 6x the original ad-free sync price, I take all my greediness comments back !
sync for reddit price (there was a pro version too) as you can see the price is reasonable. Where did you find a 6x increase?
You're showing the price for sync ultra, he's referring to the price for ad-free sync, which was like $2-3
You are comparing the old simple "Remove Ads" option to Sync Ultra features.
The new "Remove Ads" without additional features costs 14,99 €. Which, yes, is more expensive than before, but that was to be expected. The old price would have been way too cheap for today's pricing situation, especially since he also lost most of his userbase.
"today’s pricing situation" u mean 2 months ago? Also "hes lost most of his userbase"
The price was set many years ago and just never changed.
Also yes, less customers means less income for mostly the same amount of work. That is literally why bigger companies can offer cheaper prices. Scale.
What scale dev doesnt have a factory theres no production, company size doesnt matter
already he implemented it
I believe he has plans for that
Lemmy is funded by Patreon/Liberapay.... Which are essentially subscriptions
their default model isnt based on ads like sync for lemmy
a third party client isnt as much work as the fediverse as u see it took him a month
3)ads used to be a one time payment for his old app, so the money was enough for him back then and now hes even richer so why do you excuse his greediness?
It took him a month because he adapted a code base he had been working on for a decade.
It's not greediness to want to be able to pay your bills. This is his job. Also a single payment option has already been developed it's just not made in live yet.
He was already paying his bills with the one time payment and now hes even richer, this is the definition of greediness. Also his future plans are irrelevant here I am judging his current actions and the OP comment defending them.
PS, weird how the no ads feature takes longer to develop than the recurring payment with 10 features, INCLUDING the no ads one!
Why do you assume he's rich?
I said rich-ER buddy, how did you miss the one word? One time payment was enough when he had even less money back when he didnt have the reddit money yet so theres no excuse to hide no ads option behind a subscription model, especially for a foss platform, its not like its a reddit client and pays for api
Sync for reddit also had a subscription model
Which didnt have the no ads offer, which is what my one time payment is referring to.
Sync for Lemmy v25 already has a one time purchase
2.5x the price of the original sync app until a month ago, I retract my greediness comments
Who cares if he is rich. He is making a good product and people want that product. He can charge whatever he wants, there is no point taking it personally. If you don't want to pay, there is no one forcing you - you can even continue to use the app for free if you want.
Sure he can charge whatever, I'm just calling out his greediness idk what's your point
If getting paid for the work you do that people are willing to pay for is greedy, then yes I suppose he is greedy, and so are everyone else who works for a living and try to up their earnings.
Not charging more than double the price of his product in the span of one month equals to not supporting people get paid, lets end this convo here since u wanna troll ( im nice and dont assume your reading comprehension is that bad instead)
That's fine, we can agree to disagree.
Its fine if u feel like paying 2.5x more money for the same features in the span of one month, just dont push your bs onto others
I don't know what you mean by paying 2.5x in the span 1 month.
I also paid for Sync Ultra for Reddit if you are referring to that app.
the permanent ad free option, which now costs 2.5x more, but I cant oppose it or the dev will go hungry apparently
One-time payment is already implemented. Update in the Play Store if you cannot see it. The "Remove Ads" button is below the settings.
Took closer to 12 years
@synceDD @misterbassman
Ad 2.
Tell me you know nothing about software development without telling me you know nothing about software development
Charging 2.5x more in the span of one month for the same feature is the essence of software development and people cheer u for it? Sheesh im in the wrong business