Great, the programmer humor has inherited "JavaScript bad" from Reddit. Lemmy is already enshittifying.
That's not a Reddit thing. That's just a thing.
And python was created to teach programming. And PHP was something a guy used to maintain his webpage. If a language is useful it will gain popularity, and I never used a language which I didn't find frustrating at some point.
There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses.
-- Bjarne Stroustrup
True, but I see this quote repeated so often that it kind of bugs me. It seems to be used in a thought-terminating way. As if we shouldn't criticize languages. As if they aren't tools that are able to be improved upon, or they're all made equal. But I'm sure Bjarne Stroustrup needs to fend off hostility and unfair criticism as much as any programmer with a successful language.
oh i never considered that reading of the quote
i read it as more: complaints about a language, particularly the amount of complaints, don't mean it is a Bad Language that should be dropped in favor of something else
in fact the complaints validate that the language is being used by people, and that--the number of people actually using the language to Do Things--is imo a decent proxy metric for the usefulness of the language
so please complain about your languages' shortcomings! i hate so many things about terraform / sh / python / golang / java and will gladly rant at length, and then go right back to using them
except groovy
fuck groovy
Wait, wait, don't confuse terms. I wouldn't want to hear the use of enshitification the same way people are wrongly using "gaslighting."
Yes, I agree with you on the sentiment. Sucks that the same bs posted on reddit is creeping into lemmy.
But the platform is the same. Lemmy is not adding ads, or removing api access or shit like that.
Things can be both bad and useful.
whoa whoa whoa
how can we have a flamewar if youre going to be all reasonable like that
Yeah. I don't like writing JavaScript and I hate when I'm forced to use it to do something that could be handled otherwise except reasons. But especially with later versions it's not the worst thing in the world. I work in ruby on rails and love hotwire that lets me avoid js more than before. But still js isn't literally Hitler like people make it out to be
JavaScript is an abomination and real jobs don't use it
I hate js, but are ya sure
That's just an urban legend
uh i use it every day at my very real job?
You can't fool me
Hey stop being sarcastic! This is a serious programing community here... Wait.
Great, the programmer humor has inherited "JavaScript bad" from Reddit. Lemmy is already enshittifying.
That's not a Reddit thing. That's just a thing.
And python was created to teach programming. And PHP was something a guy used to maintain his webpage. If a language is useful it will gain popularity, and I never used a language which I didn't find frustrating at some point.
-- Bjarne Stroustrup
True, but I see this quote repeated so often that it kind of bugs me. It seems to be used in a thought-terminating way. As if we shouldn't criticize languages. As if they aren't tools that are able to be improved upon, or they're all made equal. But I'm sure Bjarne Stroustrup needs to fend off hostility and unfair criticism as much as any programmer with a successful language.
oh i never considered that reading of the quote
i read it as more: complaints about a language, particularly the amount of complaints, don't mean it is a Bad Language that should be dropped in favor of something else
in fact the complaints validate that the language is being used by people, and that--the number of people actually using the language to Do Things--is imo a decent proxy metric for the usefulness of the language
so please complain about your languages' shortcomings! i hate so many things about terraform / sh / python / golang / java and will gladly rant at length, and then go right back to using them
except groovy
fuck groovy
Wait, wait, don't confuse terms. I wouldn't want to hear the use of enshitification the same way people are wrongly using "gaslighting."
Yes, I agree with you on the sentiment. Sucks that the same bs posted on reddit is creeping into lemmy.
But the platform is the same. Lemmy is not adding ads, or removing api access or shit like that.
Things can be both bad and useful.
whoa whoa whoa
how can we have a flamewar if youre going to be all reasonable like that
Yeah. I don't like writing JavaScript and I hate when I'm forced to use it to do something that could be handled otherwise except reasons. But especially with later versions it's not the worst thing in the world. I work in ruby on rails and love hotwire that lets me avoid js more than before. But still js isn't literally Hitler like people make it out to be
JavaScript is an abomination and real jobs don't use it
I hate js, but are ya sure
That's just an urban legend
uh i use it every day at my very real job?
You can't fool me
Hey stop being sarcastic! This is a serious programing community here... Wait.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news