Italian company blames Turkish company blames Chinese company. Typical.
No country in that entire supply chain is known for being reliable lmfao this was plain cost-savings and corruption all the way down.
Hey wait a second, this isn't titanium - it's gypsum wrapped with aluminum foil!
Alex, I'll take What is Chinesium? For 400.
Chitanium is a grade above Chineseium.
Oh chitanium! 😲😮🤯. You are right. I gotta remember this material.
That site is cancer
Explain?
It’s a news aggregator whose primary standout feature is scanning for similar articles across tons of news sites across the ideological spectrum, and points out where stories are predominantly or entirely present or absent from one side or the other. It’s not perfect by any means, but I think it does actually provide some meaningful value in terms of offering the context of possible political narratives, especially in entrenched two-party systems.
Do you not see the ads?
I have no sympathy for someone who browses the web in 2024 without an adblocker.
My android lemmy app was only made recently and isn't that sophisticated yet I guess
"open in Firefox"
:p
You don't need adblock in any individual app. Run a whole phone adblocker. On Android, personaldnsfilter is the way to go
I see none in Firefox with ublock origin on my phone.
I think the whole premise is wrong. It's based on the narrative that news organizations have an agenda to push some kind of bias. Sure some are (like FoxNews) but many aren't like that.
There are people working for news organizations that will have a bias (they're human) but different people working for the same company can have different biases.
It also pushes the idea that the news isn't real, that it's a made up thing and you just have to choose the one that conforms to how you want things to be. But there is reality and there is the truth. If a respectable news organization quotes Joe Biden, you can trust that Joe Biden said those words. It's something that happened. If they quote Donald Trump then that is something he said. That doesn't mean what Biden or Trump said was true, but it's true that they said those words.
Most of the news is just reporting on facts. With a little bit of news literacy you can know the facts and when a small amount of bias slips into a story you can recognize it and disregard it.
Something like Ground News is a statement that bias is more significant than fact. Even if were the case that bias is more significant than fact, then why should we trust Ground News to not be biased themself? When they say something is left biased or right biased, how can we be sure it's not their bias isn't influencing how they're categorizing things?
Sure the news industry is producing more and more opinion pieces now because opinions are cheaper than gathering facts. A lot of people apparently like being told how to think about things. But usually opinion pieces are marked as such. Ground News doesn't help with the emphasis on opinion in the media, it's just putting a meta layer of their opinion on opinion pieces and labeling all news as opinion.
Everybody has a bias. Some just hide or try to remove it more than others. Faux News was built from the ground up explicitly to be the GOP's propaganda mill, and MSNBC has a clear liberal bias. Ground News at least tells you where the bias leans. There's been data published on bias - how much and what kind - for ages. The idea of impartial news was only around for a few decades in the 20th century. Now it's a largely baseless claim. But if you look at news print media from, say, the late 1800s through early 1900s you can see the bias clear as day.
y tho
Do you not see the ads?
No. I use pihole. Also, sometimes, some things actually have to be paid for.
Not news. Information is a human right.
I'd agree it should be. However, there is no government grant for journalism, and journalists have to eat. Either it's free, and the journalists either don't do the work or make it a hobby project (which means less quality) or they have to get paid somehow.
The people writing articles and the people plastering ads in between every paragraph are not the same.
No true scotsman.
Look up the fallacy fallacy and then look up irony.
Sure man, I'll quote it for you even: "You presumed that because a claim has been poorly argued, or a fallacy has been made, that the claim itself must be wrong."
I was not saying what you said must be wrong because you committed a fallacy. I was saying your argument was a fallacy and held no relevance.
Is claiming you're right by saying someone committed the fallacy fallacy the fallacy fallacy fallacy?
So how do you suggest the journalists pay their rent exactly?
Journalists are not the ones putting ads on sites.
You're missing the point. Where do you think the money that the journalist need to pay for food should come from? Were you just about to sign up for a paid subscription?
Aren't you just an entitled little shit.
Is that what you say to everyone who demands a living wage, too?
That is literally a point against your original point.
It really is, holy crap. It's like 1 paragraph per ad.
Italian company blames Turkish company blames Chinese company. Typical.
No country in that entire supply chain is known for being reliable lmfao this was plain cost-savings and corruption all the way down.
Hey wait a second, this isn't titanium - it's gypsum wrapped with aluminum foil!
Alex, I'll take What is Chinesium? For 400.
Chitanium is a grade above Chineseium.
Oh chitanium! 😲😮🤯. You are right. I gotta remember this material.
That site is cancer
Explain?
It’s a news aggregator whose primary standout feature is scanning for similar articles across tons of news sites across the ideological spectrum, and points out where stories are predominantly or entirely present or absent from one side or the other. It’s not perfect by any means, but I think it does actually provide some meaningful value in terms of offering the context of possible political narratives, especially in entrenched two-party systems.
Do you not see the ads?
I have no sympathy for someone who browses the web in 2024 without an adblocker.
My android lemmy app was only made recently and isn't that sophisticated yet I guess
"open in Firefox" :p
You don't need adblock in any individual app. Run a whole phone adblocker. On Android, personaldnsfilter is the way to go
I see none in Firefox with ublock origin on my phone.
I think the whole premise is wrong. It's based on the narrative that news organizations have an agenda to push some kind of bias. Sure some are (like FoxNews) but many aren't like that.
There are people working for news organizations that will have a bias (they're human) but different people working for the same company can have different biases.
It also pushes the idea that the news isn't real, that it's a made up thing and you just have to choose the one that conforms to how you want things to be. But there is reality and there is the truth. If a respectable news organization quotes Joe Biden, you can trust that Joe Biden said those words. It's something that happened. If they quote Donald Trump then that is something he said. That doesn't mean what Biden or Trump said was true, but it's true that they said those words.
Most of the news is just reporting on facts. With a little bit of news literacy you can know the facts and when a small amount of bias slips into a story you can recognize it and disregard it.
Something like Ground News is a statement that bias is more significant than fact. Even if were the case that bias is more significant than fact, then why should we trust Ground News to not be biased themself? When they say something is left biased or right biased, how can we be sure it's not their bias isn't influencing how they're categorizing things?
Sure the news industry is producing more and more opinion pieces now because opinions are cheaper than gathering facts. A lot of people apparently like being told how to think about things. But usually opinion pieces are marked as such. Ground News doesn't help with the emphasis on opinion in the media, it's just putting a meta layer of their opinion on opinion pieces and labeling all news as opinion.
Everybody has a bias. Some just hide or try to remove it more than others. Faux News was built from the ground up explicitly to be the GOP's propaganda mill, and MSNBC has a clear liberal bias. Ground News at least tells you where the bias leans. There's been data published on bias - how much and what kind - for ages. The idea of impartial news was only around for a few decades in the 20th century. Now it's a largely baseless claim. But if you look at news print media from, say, the late 1800s through early 1900s you can see the bias clear as day.
y tho
Do you not see the ads?
No. I use pihole. Also, sometimes, some things actually have to be paid for.
Not news. Information is a human right.
I'd agree it should be. However, there is no government grant for journalism, and journalists have to eat. Either it's free, and the journalists either don't do the work or make it a hobby project (which means less quality) or they have to get paid somehow.
The people writing articles and the people plastering ads in between every paragraph are not the same.
No true scotsman.
Look up the fallacy fallacy and then look up irony.
Sure man, I'll quote it for you even: "You presumed that because a claim has been poorly argued, or a fallacy has been made, that the claim itself must be wrong."
I was not saying what you said must be wrong because you committed a fallacy. I was saying your argument was a fallacy and held no relevance.
Is claiming you're right by saying someone committed the fallacy fallacy the fallacy fallacy fallacy?
So how do you suggest the journalists pay their rent exactly?
Journalists are not the ones putting ads on sites.
You're missing the point. Where do you think the money that the journalist need to pay for food should come from? Were you just about to sign up for a paid subscription?
Aren't you just an entitled little shit.
Is that what you say to everyone who demands a living wage, too?
That is literally a point against your original point.
It really is, holy crap. It's like 1 paragraph per ad.