Tesla’s Dieselgate

jocanib@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.world – 60 points –
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Tesla is a giant shell-game masquerading as a car company. The important thing about Tesla isn't its cars, it's Tesla's business arrangement, the Tesla-Financial Complex:

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I never fully understood this Reuters range investigation. I have had a Tesla Model 3 for many years now, and it tells me I can go, say, 290 miles on a full charge. When I plan a long road trip, it figures out I need to stop at a charger after about 275 miles so I have a few percent left. So I drive the 275 miles, get to the charger with roughly that amount of % charge left, charge my car and keep on going. If I really only had 150 miles of range, there's no way I would've ever reached that charger. I've done trips like this many times now. In my experience the advertised range is more or less realistic, and this is easily provable with any car.

Is it a quality control issue? Are people being confused by the massive effect temperatures have on EV range? It doesn't seem like the major conspiracy it's made out to be. Mishandled though, probably.

many years now

This appears to be an escalating fraud, affecting newer models more than old. So I'd guess that's ^^ the answer.

It's not just a Reuters investigation, they've been fined by a few jurisdictions and they absolutely do have the ability to pay lawyers to defend those charges if they're false.

According to the article they had to derate their ranges by 3-5% or so. Cory is talking about the range being less than half of the estimated one. I think we would’ve seen thousands of stranded Teslas around here if that were really the case. So I remain doubtful.

FWIW I suspect most of these "omg why is my range suddenly gone!" complaints with Tesla to be exactly the same as with all other EVs: Very low temperatures, or towing. You'll find plenty of people complaining about every model and make of EV because consumers expected to have the advertised range even though they're towing a trailer or are driving through a freezing mountain pass. Unfortunately EVs just don't handle this very well.

Yeah, Doctorow is a good writer, but sometimes he thinks he understands stuff but he doesn't really.

The only mention of half range did specify winter conditions.

The Korean regulator found that the true range of Teslas under normal winter conditions was less than half of the claimed range.

But yet everybody will still suck his dick and post the same enshittification essay like he’s some prophet.

My car only goes 180 miles.. congrats on getting a good one though.

Which model/year do you have? Is that fairly consistent throughout the year?

Drops significantly during winter, perhaps to 120 miles.

2018 model 3 Long Range.

That sounds way off. For a LR that would be 388 Wh/km, which is incredibly bad. Normal values should be 150-200 Wh/km unless you're pulling a trailer or going 200+ km/h.

I go around 80mph on average, which I would think is normal in America.

This is also with the AC off btw, that is my max range. Clocked 6 or 7 times.

You should probably go do a battery health check. If your range is that bad, your battery degradation should be within warranty replacement range.

Yeah, please get a battery health check done and contact Tesla for battery replacement under warranty. My SR+ goes further than that at this speed.