For fuck’s sake, stop making company/product names that are homophones of normal English words with “creative” spelling.
“I bought a mikroPhone the other day”.
“Oh, I didn’t know you sang?”
“…what?”
...yknow other languages than English exist right?
Ways to say microphone
Albanian mikrofon
Basque mikrofonoa
Belarusian мікрафон [mikrafon]
Bosnian mikrofon
Bulgarian микрофон [mikrofon]
Catalan micròfon
Corsican microfonu
Croatian mikrofon
Czech mikrofon
Danish mikrofon
Dutch microfoon
Estonian mikrofon
Finnish mikrofoni
French microphone
Frisian mikrofoan
Galician micrófono
German Mikrofon
Greek μικρόφωνο [mikrófono]
Hungarian mikrofon
Icelandic hljóðnema
Irish micreafón
Italian microfono
Latvian mikrofons
Lithuanian mikrofonas
Luxembourgish Mikrofon
Macedonian микрофон [mikrofon]
Maltese mikrofonu
Norwegian mikrofon
Polish mikrofon
Portuguese microfone
Romanian microfon
Russian микрофон [mikrofon]
Scots Gaelic micreofon
Serbian микрофон [mikrofon]
Slovak mikrofón
Slovenian mikrofon
Spanish micrófono
Swedish mikrofon
Tatar микрофон
Ukrainian мікрофон [mikrofon]
Welsh meicroffon
Yiddish מיקראָפאָן [mikrofon]
I’d argue that this still tracks in Dutch or German.
Really they should be making it for existing phones. The mobile Linux scene is pretty barren
The problem is that phone hardware is incredibly non-standard. Every model requires custom tweaks and regular bug fixes, which is why there aren't many phones with good Linux support or with enduring LineageOS support or any other specialty OS. Every manufacturer does their own thing and edits Android to fit their hardware, but they generally don't release the custom drivers or any documentation. The same phone model from a different year or different region might have a different chipset in it. Keeping up with it is basically impossible, by the time an aftermarket developer gets their custom OS build running properly the phone is obsolete.
On the other hand, if a project can pick the hardware platform for themselves then everything is more manageable.
I suppose manufacturers don’t usually play well with others.
Everybody likes to take advantage of open standards, but nobody wants to share their own toys.
Well, they call it IP ;)
It's extremely difficult since every phone SOC has its own closed proprietary blob of drivers that's required to make use of it.
Doesn't the ESP32 module this project is using require the same thing?
They have some blobs for wifi/ble, but the difference is you can freely use them, whereas obtaining the blobs for most phone SOCs is hard.
I keep thinking if they could make a phone that you just assemble like a computer and can change the parts to upgrade. I don't care it would be bit bulky. But I assume they wouldn't make as much money if people won't buy entire new phones every two years.
Fairphone 5?
Currently typing this on a Fairphone 5 that I imported from Europe. I would personally say no in terms of it being an answer to the above poster. At least as of now. I'm not saying I dislike the phone. I'm fairly happy with it, with the only real complaint being battery life.
Although it is easy to repair, as far as I am aware none of the phones really share any parts or have an upgrade path which is what I would really like to see. Similar to the Framework laptops (which I also own and just upgraded). I think the SoC in this phone will last me for quite some time, but if the Fairphone 6 ends up having a much more energy efficient screen, I would love if I could install it on my current phone, but that is highly unlikely as far as I can tell.
Seems like you've experienced all the reasons I've never considered getting one despite thinking it's a really cool product lol
I get a new phone every couple of years and aside from the battery, I seriously doubt I'd ever upgrade a module in the fairphone. I would just choose the best parts when I bought it initially and use it as-is until it was toast.
Laptops, on the other hand....if I ever need to buy one, it'll be a Framework.
Makes sense to me. One of the deciding factors for me was the ease of bootloader unlocking. After getting fucked by Asus on my Zenfone 8 Flip when they started with their heel turn, the FP5 seemed like one of the better options for a company that would "always" have the unlock option.
Currently I am running it rooted with the original fully updated ROM, but I plan on installing Lineage OS on it in the future. Since I hadn't ever installed a custom ROM and because I didn't have a backup phone anymore, I bought a cheap OnePlus phone to practice installing Lineage on. Although the OnePlus was relatively easy to unlock, the FP5 was even easier.
I honestly only buy a new phone when my current one breaks or runs out of software support. I bought my current phone (Google Pixel 8) because my old (Moto G Power) ran out of security updates, and this one has 7 years of support.
If I could have switched to a FOSS OS for longer support, I'd still be using my old phone. If I could replace parts to something that gets software updates, I would have. But no, it's ewaste because it's no longer getting support.
If someone makes a forever phone, I'll buy it.
Depending on the country, it might not be available or has limited carrier options. Not very fair imo.
I propose that we delete the actual phone app. There's no rhyme or reason to actually have a stupid phone number that nobody can remember. Simply replace it with a fediverse name handle and let's move forward with the rest of our lives.
Secondly, I propose encrypted communication where I will allow o only a select few people to actually call me. If anyone else wants to call me, you can register in my phone access app and I will approve it for next call.
For fuck’s sake, stop making company/product names that are homophones of normal English words with “creative” spelling.
“I bought a mikroPhone the other day”.
“Oh, I didn’t know you sang?”
“…what?”
...yknow other languages than English exist right?
Ways to say microphone
Albanian mikrofon Basque mikrofonoa Belarusian мікрафон [mikrafon] Bosnian mikrofon Bulgarian микрофон [mikrofon] Catalan micròfon Corsican microfonu Croatian mikrofon Czech mikrofon Danish mikrofon Dutch microfoon Estonian mikrofon Finnish mikrofoni French microphone Frisian mikrofoan Galician micrófono German Mikrofon Greek μικρόφωνο [mikrófono] Hungarian mikrofon Icelandic hljóðnema Irish micreafón Italian microfono Latvian mikrofons Lithuanian mikrofonas Luxembourgish Mikrofon Macedonian микрофон [mikrofon] Maltese mikrofonu Norwegian mikrofon Polish mikrofon Portuguese microfone Romanian microfon Russian микрофон [mikrofon] Scots Gaelic micreofon Serbian микрофон [mikrofon] Slovak mikrofón Slovenian mikrofon Spanish micrófono Swedish mikrofon Tatar микрофон Ukrainian мікрофон [mikrofon] Welsh meicroffon Yiddish מיקראָפאָן [mikrofon]
I’d argue that this still tracks in Dutch or German.
Really they should be making it for existing phones. The mobile Linux scene is pretty barren
The problem is that phone hardware is incredibly non-standard. Every model requires custom tweaks and regular bug fixes, which is why there aren't many phones with good Linux support or with enduring LineageOS support or any other specialty OS. Every manufacturer does their own thing and edits Android to fit their hardware, but they generally don't release the custom drivers or any documentation. The same phone model from a different year or different region might have a different chipset in it. Keeping up with it is basically impossible, by the time an aftermarket developer gets their custom OS build running properly the phone is obsolete.
On the other hand, if a project can pick the hardware platform for themselves then everything is more manageable.
I suppose manufacturers don’t usually play well with others.
Everybody likes to take advantage of open standards, but nobody wants to share their own toys.
Well, they call it IP ;)
It's extremely difficult since every phone SOC has its own closed proprietary blob of drivers that's required to make use of it.
Doesn't the ESP32 module this project is using require the same thing?
They have some blobs for wifi/ble, but the difference is you can freely use them, whereas obtaining the blobs for most phone SOCs is hard.
I keep thinking if they could make a phone that you just assemble like a computer and can change the parts to upgrade. I don't care it would be bit bulky. But I assume they wouldn't make as much money if people won't buy entire new phones every two years.
Fairphone 5?
Currently typing this on a Fairphone 5 that I imported from Europe. I would personally say no in terms of it being an answer to the above poster. At least as of now. I'm not saying I dislike the phone. I'm fairly happy with it, with the only real complaint being battery life.
Although it is easy to repair, as far as I am aware none of the phones really share any parts or have an upgrade path which is what I would really like to see. Similar to the Framework laptops (which I also own and just upgraded). I think the SoC in this phone will last me for quite some time, but if the Fairphone 6 ends up having a much more energy efficient screen, I would love if I could install it on my current phone, but that is highly unlikely as far as I can tell.
Seems like you've experienced all the reasons I've never considered getting one despite thinking it's a really cool product lol
I get a new phone every couple of years and aside from the battery, I seriously doubt I'd ever upgrade a module in the fairphone. I would just choose the best parts when I bought it initially and use it as-is until it was toast.
Laptops, on the other hand....if I ever need to buy one, it'll be a Framework.
Makes sense to me. One of the deciding factors for me was the ease of bootloader unlocking. After getting fucked by Asus on my Zenfone 8 Flip when they started with their heel turn, the FP5 seemed like one of the better options for a company that would "always" have the unlock option.
Currently I am running it rooted with the original fully updated ROM, but I plan on installing Lineage OS on it in the future. Since I hadn't ever installed a custom ROM and because I didn't have a backup phone anymore, I bought a cheap OnePlus phone to practice installing Lineage on. Although the OnePlus was relatively easy to unlock, the FP5 was even easier.
I honestly only buy a new phone when my current one breaks or runs out of software support. I bought my current phone (Google Pixel 8) because my old (Moto G Power) ran out of security updates, and this one has 7 years of support.
If I could have switched to a FOSS OS for longer support, I'd still be using my old phone. If I could replace parts to something that gets software updates, I would have. But no, it's ewaste because it's no longer getting support.
If someone makes a forever phone, I'll buy it.
Depending on the country, it might not be available or has limited carrier options. Not very fair imo.
I propose that we delete the actual phone app. There's no rhyme or reason to actually have a stupid phone number that nobody can remember. Simply replace it with a fediverse name handle and let's move forward with the rest of our lives.
Secondly, I propose encrypted communication where I will allow o only a select few people to actually call me. If anyone else wants to call me, you can register in my phone access app and I will approve it for next call.