100K for Eastman so far, no word yet on Trump or the others.
100K for Eastman so far, no word yet on Trump or the others.
Low enough to keep Trump out of a cell without breaking a sweat.
Fucking rich people...
I'm not trying to minimize the unfairness of this, but... bond is intended to ensure that a person sticks around until trial. This is all pretrial, so the precedent is that it should not be punishment, it should be insurance.
If they ever lose track of Trump, they can just check Faux News. If he skips bail, they can just pull up that Truth Social and look at what he's posting. He can't run away and disappear, because it's impossible for him.
Illinois has even gotten rid of cash bail entirely, because in this day an age, you can't hide without leaving society. Either you are so dangerous that they need to keep you locked up until trial, or you aren't and shouldn't be punished until it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt that you did the thing.
We shouldn't be complaining that we're not punishing them early, we should be pushing for the same treatment to the rest (like is slowly happening now.)
Bond should not be something rich people can afford and poor people can't. If you want to make an argument for eliminating cash bond, I'm with you, but it isn't there in Georgia and it should be a sliding scale if anything.
I AM making an argument that cash bond should be eliminated.
And I am ALSO making the argument that cash bond is meaningless in this case, because they CAN NOT RUN.
What do you mean they cannot run? They can get on their private planes and fly anywhere in the world. These are filthy rich people.
Yeah, but Trump is medically incapable of not posting insane ramblings with more information than necessary anywhere that will let him, which I believe is the point they were making
Trump is not the only one indicted.
I feel like that’s irrelevant to this discussion
Lot of good it'll do us knowing where he is when he's in Moscow.
That sounds like a win, honestly. Get all the MAGA idiots to emigrate, seize and auction all his assets, step 3: ???, step 4: profit
The Secret Service knows Trump's whereabouts at all times. He's not going to slip away from them.
As for the others, even the ultra-wealthy's private jets are easily tracked via publicly available data.
What are they going to do, get in their fighter jets and force the plane to come down before it crosses into international airspace? Come on.
The plane won't take off. Their pilot's not going to fly internationally without filing a flight plan and they're not going to go on the lam with their client.
Georgia law also requires that the accused "Poses no significant risk of intimidating witnesses or otherwise obstructing the administration of justice."
I'm really interested in how they're going to address that one given Trump's history of intimidating witnesses, juries and obstructing the administration of justice..
I'd be happy if they just forbid him from using electronics. That said, that didn't work so great for Andrew Tate...
Edit: on second thought, maybe not. He's been caught so far because he DID use them and got recorded.
All presidents are always accompanied by secret service detail. We know exactly where he is all the time.
The same Secret Service that was told by the Inspector General that he wanted to review all their messages around January 6, and then all the Secret Service messages for a two-day period surrounding January 6 were mysteriously deleted?
The same Secret Service that made Mike Pence sound like a Criminal Minds victim when he said: "I'm not getting in the car, Tim,” Pence said. “I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car.”
That Secret Service?
$200,000 for Trump, and he has to agree to not intimidate anyone. Pool's open, guys, how long until he violates the order?
I give it less than 24 hours.
How long of a car ride is it from the courthouse to his nearest property/airplane? Because it will happen during that time frame. Although, there's the outside chance that he'll violate the order while still inside the courthouse. I'd give that one longer odds, just because he'll want to be sitting down when he pulls out his phone, and I doubt he'd sit and relax in the courthouse.
3-2-1...
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Former President Donald Trump and several co-defendants in the sweeping Georgia racketeering case are expected to work out the terms of their bond Monday with the Fulton County district attorney’s office, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
Donald Trump’s legal team has arrived at the Fulton County courthouse where they are expected to meet with the district attorney’s office and negotiate the terms of the former president’s bond and release conditions, sources told CNN.
In a typical case in Fulton County when police make an arrest, the arrestee is booked into jail and must appear before a magistrate judge within 72 hours.
Because they have already been indicted and are expected to negotiate the terms of release and bond before surrendering at the jail, they most likely won’t have an initial court appearance, attorneys told CNN.
Dozens of law enforcement vehicles are parked, lining the two block radius around the court as well as the government center where the 19 defendants are expected to negotiate the terms of release and bond with the district attorney’s office.
According to a news release from the sheriff’s office on Monday, the barricades around the Fulton County courthouse will remain in place until Saturday.
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Low enough to keep Trump out of a cell without breaking a sweat.
Fucking rich people...
I'm not trying to minimize the unfairness of this, but... bond is intended to ensure that a person sticks around until trial. This is all pretrial, so the precedent is that it should not be punishment, it should be insurance.
If they ever lose track of Trump, they can just check Faux News. If he skips bail, they can just pull up that Truth Social and look at what he's posting. He can't run away and disappear, because it's impossible for him.
Illinois has even gotten rid of cash bail entirely, because in this day an age, you can't hide without leaving society. Either you are so dangerous that they need to keep you locked up until trial, or you aren't and shouldn't be punished until it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt that you did the thing.
We shouldn't be complaining that we're not punishing them early, we should be pushing for the same treatment to the rest (like is slowly happening now.)
https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/the-illinois-supreme-court-cash-bail-ruling-explained
Bond should not be something rich people can afford and poor people can't. If you want to make an argument for eliminating cash bond, I'm with you, but it isn't there in Georgia and it should be a sliding scale if anything.
I AM making an argument that cash bond should be eliminated.
And I am ALSO making the argument that cash bond is meaningless in this case, because they CAN NOT RUN.
What do you mean they cannot run? They can get on their private planes and fly anywhere in the world. These are filthy rich people.
Yeah, but Trump is medically incapable of not posting insane ramblings with more information than necessary anywhere that will let him, which I believe is the point they were making
Trump is not the only one indicted.
I feel like that’s irrelevant to this discussion
Lot of good it'll do us knowing where he is when he's in Moscow.
That sounds like a win, honestly. Get all the MAGA idiots to emigrate, seize and auction all his assets, step 3: ???, step 4: profit
The Secret Service knows Trump's whereabouts at all times. He's not going to slip away from them.
As for the others, even the ultra-wealthy's private jets are easily tracked via publicly available data.
What are they going to do, get in their fighter jets and force the plane to come down before it crosses into international airspace? Come on.
The plane won't take off. Their pilot's not going to fly internationally without filing a flight plan and they're not going to go on the lam with their client.
Georgia law also requires that the accused "Poses no significant risk of intimidating witnesses or otherwise obstructing the administration of justice."
I'm really interested in how they're going to address that one given Trump's history of intimidating witnesses, juries and obstructing the administration of justice..
I'd be happy if they just forbid him from using electronics. That said, that didn't work so great for Andrew Tate...
Edit: on second thought, maybe not. He's been caught so far because he DID use them and got recorded.
All presidents are always accompanied by secret service detail. We know exactly where he is all the time.
The same Secret Service that was told by the Inspector General that he wanted to review all their messages around January 6, and then all the Secret Service messages for a two-day period surrounding January 6 were mysteriously deleted?
The same Secret Service that made Mike Pence sound like a Criminal Minds victim when he said: "I'm not getting in the car, Tim,” Pence said. “I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car.”
That Secret Service?
$200,000 for Trump, and he has to agree to not intimidate anyone. Pool's open, guys, how long until he violates the order?
I give it less than 24 hours.
How long of a car ride is it from the courthouse to his nearest property/airplane? Because it will happen during that time frame. Although, there's the outside chance that he'll violate the order while still inside the courthouse. I'd give that one longer odds, just because he'll want to be sitting down when he pulls out his phone, and I doubt he'd sit and relax in the courthouse.
3-2-1...
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Former President Donald Trump and several co-defendants in the sweeping Georgia racketeering case are expected to work out the terms of their bond Monday with the Fulton County district attorney’s office, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
Donald Trump’s legal team has arrived at the Fulton County courthouse where they are expected to meet with the district attorney’s office and negotiate the terms of the former president’s bond and release conditions, sources told CNN.
In a typical case in Fulton County when police make an arrest, the arrestee is booked into jail and must appear before a magistrate judge within 72 hours.
Because they have already been indicted and are expected to negotiate the terms of release and bond before surrendering at the jail, they most likely won’t have an initial court appearance, attorneys told CNN.
Dozens of law enforcement vehicles are parked, lining the two block radius around the court as well as the government center where the 19 defendants are expected to negotiate the terms of release and bond with the district attorney’s office.
According to a news release from the sheriff’s office on Monday, the barricades around the Fulton County courthouse will remain in place until Saturday.
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