The fact that it’s a bipedal humanoid figure alone should be enough to write this off without further question…
Why does everyone assume aliens would look even remotely like us?
The train of thought that leads to that belief is usually along the lines of: We're the only sample we have. It's more likely than not that what our planet and ecosystem has produced is not an outlier but the norm.
That being said, of course I strongly believe those to be fake and also assume that there is a huge amount of variance in what intelligent life with potential to develop spacefaring technology could look like. Therefore we're probably not an outlier, but the possibilities within non-outliers are still so vast that our first contact would likely look a lot different.
I mean even on our own planet, there’s such a wide variety of life and most of it looks widely different from humans aside from fellow primates. Why should they look anything like people, and not like cephalopods, or insectoids, or more likely something vastly different in design. They would have an entirely different evolutionary lineage - and who’s to say they’d even have a genetic system like our own? Like you said, we’re the only sample we have. You can’t make assumptions about a galactic or universal population based on one planetary sample size
Of course, this could be entirely wrong, and maybe extraterrestrial life is more similar to us than we’d expect - but even then, there’s no reason to expect any life forms we encounter to look like us any more than we should expect any other species to. Sure, a few may, and there may be similarities, but to assume they’re likely to be at all humanoid just feels like heavy anthropocentric bias
Convergent evolution is a thing. Aliens that live in similar natural habitats and that fill similar ecological niches as humans will likely evolve along similar lines due to facing similar pressures. With that said, this is a very big assumption and all that it really tells us is that it is not impossible for "humanoid" alien life to exist.
Also, whatever is out there, we'll never know for certain. Distances are just too large. Space is so incredibly, unfathomably big that it's almost certain that there's other intelligent life out there. However, space is also so incredibly, unfathomably big that it's almost certain that we'll never meet it.
It totally makes sense if they're a time traveling, evolved species from our own just trying to learn about its past. Or maybe just site seeing. Either way, their trip didn't seem to end well.
I want to believe, but not on account of Jaime Maussan lol
I've only heard the name because of this event in Mexico, didn't know a thing previously. Does he already have a reputation of sorts?
He tried this scam before and somehow no “journalist” bothers to do a minimal amount of “journalistic investigation” aka search his name in google before publishing their articles. He got caught with the same bs already.
Gold! I'll look it up
at least the first time he tried the hoax he didn't even put the finger bones in a consistent direction: https://imgur.com/TU1JWkG
I'm too weary and cynical to want to believe. I want to want to believe, though. But...yeah, it's bullshit.
Yes, the realization that this was discussed as if it were statements from the Mexican government instead of to them was a bit of a letdown.
Yeah, "self-proclaimed" was deliberately left out of the title i would assume.
they likely only drank
Eyyy it's my people!
Isn’t this a repeat of a pay pe view scam he ran a few years ago? I am surprised that they repeat the claims when he has already been caught in the past. It’s one thing if he could bribe or trick whoever allowed him to testify but the news should not be so lazy repeating the lies. They should make it clear that he tried the same scam already.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
During Tuesday's hearing, José de Jesús Zalce Benítez, a forensic expert and a military doctor, walked the Congress through scans of the alleged alien bodies.
A former Navy fighter pilot, Graves was one of three U.S. veterans who testified in front of a U.S. congressional subcommittee investigating the existence of UFOs in July.
Mexico's Congress also was shown videos of Mexican pilots struggling to make sense of fast-moving flying objects before them.
In a post on X, formerly Twitter, he said he accepted the Mexican Congress' invitation "hoping to keep up the momentum of government interest in pilot experiences" with "unidentified anomalous phenomena" or UAP.
"My testimony centered on sharing my experience and the UAP reports I hear from commercial and military aircrew through ASA's witness program.
I will continue to raise awareness of UAP as an urgent matter of aerospace safety, national security, and science, but I am deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiated stunt."
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Didnt we learn anything from the 2000 era "alien autopsy"???
The fact that it’s a bipedal humanoid figure alone should be enough to write this off without further question…
Why does everyone assume aliens would look even remotely like us?
The train of thought that leads to that belief is usually along the lines of: We're the only sample we have. It's more likely than not that what our planet and ecosystem has produced is not an outlier but the norm.
That being said, of course I strongly believe those to be fake and also assume that there is a huge amount of variance in what intelligent life with potential to develop spacefaring technology could look like. Therefore we're probably not an outlier, but the possibilities within non-outliers are still so vast that our first contact would likely look a lot different.
I mean even on our own planet, there’s such a wide variety of life and most of it looks widely different from humans aside from fellow primates. Why should they look anything like people, and not like cephalopods, or insectoids, or more likely something vastly different in design. They would have an entirely different evolutionary lineage - and who’s to say they’d even have a genetic system like our own? Like you said, we’re the only sample we have. You can’t make assumptions about a galactic or universal population based on one planetary sample size
Of course, this could be entirely wrong, and maybe extraterrestrial life is more similar to us than we’d expect - but even then, there’s no reason to expect any life forms we encounter to look like us any more than we should expect any other species to. Sure, a few may, and there may be similarities, but to assume they’re likely to be at all humanoid just feels like heavy anthropocentric bias
Convergent evolution is a thing. Aliens that live in similar natural habitats and that fill similar ecological niches as humans will likely evolve along similar lines due to facing similar pressures. With that said, this is a very big assumption and all that it really tells us is that it is not impossible for "humanoid" alien life to exist.
Also, whatever is out there, we'll never know for certain. Distances are just too large. Space is so incredibly, unfathomably big that it's almost certain that there's other intelligent life out there. However, space is also so incredibly, unfathomably big that it's almost certain that we'll never meet it.
It totally makes sense if they're a time traveling, evolved species from our own just trying to learn about its past. Or maybe just site seeing. Either way, their trip didn't seem to end well.
I want to believe, but not on account of Jaime Maussan lol
I've only heard the name because of this event in Mexico, didn't know a thing previously. Does he already have a reputation of sorts?
He tried this scam before and somehow no “journalist” bothers to do a minimal amount of “journalistic investigation” aka search his name in google before publishing their articles. He got caught with the same bs already.
Gold! I'll look it up
at least the first time he tried the hoax he didn't even put the finger bones in a consistent direction: https://imgur.com/TU1JWkG
I'm too weary and cynical to want to believe. I want to want to believe, though. But...yeah, it's bullshit.
Yes, the realization that this was discussed as if it were statements from the Mexican government instead of to them was a bit of a letdown.
Yeah, "self-proclaimed" was deliberately left out of the title i would assume.
Eyyy it's my people!
Isn’t this a repeat of a pay pe view scam he ran a few years ago? I am surprised that they repeat the claims when he has already been caught in the past. It’s one thing if he could bribe or trick whoever allowed him to testify but the news should not be so lazy repeating the lies. They should make it clear that he tried the same scam already.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
During Tuesday's hearing, José de Jesús Zalce Benítez, a forensic expert and a military doctor, walked the Congress through scans of the alleged alien bodies.
A former Navy fighter pilot, Graves was one of three U.S. veterans who testified in front of a U.S. congressional subcommittee investigating the existence of UFOs in July.
Mexico's Congress also was shown videos of Mexican pilots struggling to make sense of fast-moving flying objects before them.
In a post on X, formerly Twitter, he said he accepted the Mexican Congress' invitation "hoping to keep up the momentum of government interest in pilot experiences" with "unidentified anomalous phenomena" or UAP.
"My testimony centered on sharing my experience and the UAP reports I hear from commercial and military aircrew through ASA's witness program.
I will continue to raise awareness of UAP as an urgent matter of aerospace safety, national security, and science, but I am deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiated stunt."
The original article contains 375 words, the summary contains 155 words. Saved 59%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Didnt we learn anything from the 2000 era "alien autopsy"???