In the 10 years since, Musk has changed his tune from one of derision to one of respect, saying in May: "That was many years ago. Their cars are highly competitive these days."
This is something to keep in mind because he has kept the same car designs for a decade. BYD has continually updated their hardware and designs. Musk isn't leading Tesla; he's at the helm while it coasts along, losing the momentum needed to move into the future.
I want to see battery ranges of 400-450 miles for $25-30,000 before I’ll consider it. I have a PHEV and the range is inflated. It gets 2/3rds of what it claims. To get what it claims, I’d need to do 20 miles an hour everywhere. That’s obviously not happening. Tesla also has range issues and gets much less than claimed… to the point where they got in trouble for it.
How many of these just stand in China's EV graveyards?
@boem
I'm trying really hard to care about that.
But I think I'll just just say: 中华人民共和国万岁 !
Fuck China
Look, another racist!
Lol, that's plenty to not like about China besides color of skin.
@Kbobabob The economy that drives the world? Later this century the US will be driving Geely cars and shooting guns made of Bao Shan steel. Then, with the world economy in it's pocket , the PLA will start exporting Communism to those countries defaulting in their debt. Chinese 'capitalism' is a means to an end, as those getting rich on it will find out.
Optimistic outlook for a country that'd about to hit a massive population collapse and fall out of their current position in the world as early as the 2050s
Honestly? Good.
Maybe this will actually push EVs to be the most common vehicle type.
Pay wall, but AFAIK they aren't past Tesla yet, all these comparisons include PHEV.
That said, it's believed they may pass Tesla in 2024 for pure EVs
PHEV?
Plug in hybrids electric vehicle.
Gas engine + battery
https://www.thestreet.com/electric-vehicles/elon-musk-calls-out-teslas-biggest-electric-vehicle-competition-
Ya a lot can happen in 10 years.
This is something to keep in mind because he has kept the same car designs for a decade. BYD has continually updated their hardware and designs. Musk isn't leading Tesla; he's at the helm while it coasts along, losing the momentum needed to move into the future.
I want to see battery ranges of 400-450 miles for $25-30,000 before I’ll consider it. I have a PHEV and the range is inflated. It gets 2/3rds of what it claims. To get what it claims, I’d need to do 20 miles an hour everywhere. That’s obviously not happening. Tesla also has range issues and gets much less than claimed… to the point where they got in trouble for it.
How many of these just stand in China's EV graveyards?
@boem
I'm trying really hard to care about that.
But I think I'll just just say: 中华人民共和国万岁 !
Fuck China
Look, another racist!
Lol, that's plenty to not like about China besides color of skin.
@Kbobabob The economy that drives the world? Later this century the US will be driving Geely cars and shooting guns made of Bao Shan steel. Then, with the world economy in it's pocket , the PLA will start exporting Communism to those countries defaulting in their debt. Chinese 'capitalism' is a means to an end, as those getting rich on it will find out.
Optimistic outlook for a country that'd about to hit a massive population collapse and fall out of their current position in the world as early as the 2050s