Lemmy instance with 2 alternative frontends.

Philip@endlesstalk.org to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 99 points –

The 2 frontends are

  • Mlmym at old.endlesstalk.org. Here you can get the old.reddit experience.
  • Alexandrite at new.endlesstalk.org. "A beautiful and convenient desktop-first alternate web UI for Lemmy."
    • Registering isn't supported yet. Need to sign up using old.endlesstalk.org or new.endlesstalk.org.

Everyone is welcome to try them and sign up(not required). It is running on a fairly beefy server, so should be able to take a decent amount of users.

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Love the look of Alexandrite. Is there a way to self-host it? I’m not familiar with Svelte.

I created a fork, where I added a Dockerfile, so if you know Docker and how to build it, should be able to use that.

It exposes port 3000 and you need to point PUBLIC_INSTANCE to where the main instance is hosted.

Thanks for sharing, running on a Docker container is perfect.

I''m one of the people who sheepishly really liked "new" reddit's interface, so Alexandrite is like catnip to me!

Infinite scroll! No more losing place in feeds!

Would you also consider vger.app (voyager) at m.endlesstalk.org for mobile as lemmy.world have?

It seems to be fairly easy to get up and running, so when I have the time, sure.

I was aware of mlmym but not alexandrite. This is cool, thanks! I’ll try it out today.

Cannot find kbin.social instances - how do I join those from endlesstalk?

Hmm. I can see kbin.social instances and have subscribed to some of them

Have you tried searching via the url of the kbin magazone/community in endlesstalk.org? or just searching for them without @?

Can you see RedditMigration@kbin.social ? I can't, no matter how I search.

If I use the url(https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration) on endlesstalk.org, I can find it.

Where do you use it? In the search field, it doesn't seem to work.

Ah, if I logged out, then I'm unable to get it, when I search via url, but I can see it, if I just search for RedditMigration and limit the type to Communities

https://old.endlesstalk.org/m/RedditMigration@kbin.social - 404 page not found.

Yeah, I think there is something wrong with the kbin federation. I have been subscribed to @RedditMigration@kbin.social for some time, but there isn't any content on endlesstalk.org.

I will look into it.

there are definitely federation issues with kbin.social

I'm on lemmy.sdf.org and my subscriptions to kbin magazines are extremely flaky and sometimes don't work at all

I've tried posting about it on both my lemmy community and kbinmeta on kbin.social but never got much traction on why federation is hit-or-miss

new.endlesstalk.org looks very pretty, and it's all very speedy, but - for me, on Microsoft Edge - clicking 'Subscribed' or 'Local' or 'All' doesn't actually change anything.

Also, I tried to migrate my subscriptions etc with LASIM, but - for old.endlesstalk.org - it says the API isn't there, and for endlesstalk.org and new.endlesstalk.org it uploads and says it's worked, but nothing is there for any of the site versions.

Hmm. It shouldn't work for old.endlesstalk.org, since it has a setup, where the backend isn't reachable, but it should work for the other 2.

I have just found that the image service has had some files corrupted and therefor it isn't working currently, so that might be the cause? I'm working on restoring a backup, so it works again.

Hopefully that fixes the issue. Will let your know, when the image service works again.

Images are working again now, so you can try again and see if it works.

Re: navigating between Subscribed, Local or All on the Alexandrite version, I've just realised that I also have to press "Go>" to make it change, so sorry about that.

Re: using LASIM to upload subscriptions still doesn't do anything, unfortunately. It might be the app - I've never used it on anything before tbh.

No problem.

I will try to use the tool and see if I can find out, if its the tool or the website. I'll update, when I find more out.

I found the issue. I had set the rate limit for messaging to 0(unlimited), which LASIM wasn't set to handle.

I have now set another rate limit, so it should work now(Worked for me atleast)

I never had considered before a few days ago that someone would host Alexandrite alongside their instance so it never occurred to me that someone might first interact with Lemmy through Alexandrite. I will definitely add registration!

Alexandrite looks great, thanks for the dockerfile.

Noob question: could this be build as a native theme? Lemmy has an extra theme folder 🤔

I don't know too much about frontend, but I my guess would be, that it would be difficult to get an 1 to 1 copy, but you coud get something fairly close.

Fediverse software is so cool, but most themes look like from early 2000's 😅

Mastodon has the same problem. More modern themes would be cool

Can't sign up - 400 Bad Request: rate_limit_error

I think it was because of a wrong rate limit setting. Should be fixed now.

On old.endlesstalk.org, /home/ seems to link to the same feed as /all/, and the own subscriptions don't show up in the top bar. Is that a bug?

My subscriptions show in the topbar, so I'm not sure why yours doesn't.

The home seems to link to the "default listing" under settings, so if yours are set to All, then that would be the correct behaviour.

Thanks, that I had to use settings was not immediately obvious. Also, a lot of subscriptions show as "pending", which may be why they don't show up in the topbar.

I have multiple pending subscriptions, that are shown in the top bar, so that doesn't seem to be the cause.

Maybe it's the ones where the content hasn't been federated over to endlesstalk.org yet.

I think it is because there is some federation issues with kbin(As I mentioned in the other comment.

Its not kbin but feddit.de instances. For example pflanzen@feddit.de or manga@feddit.de.

If I add a ! before(eg !pflanzen@feddit.de), then I can find the communities, but there isn't any content for it, so seems some content isn't federating correctly.

Would be happy if you could look into this issue as well.

Unfortuntately I'm not sure, if I can do that much about the federation stuff, since its possible the other site isn't sending everything out correctly. It also doesn't seem to be feddit.de as a whole, as there are other communites from feddit.de, that works.

I will look into though and see if I can find anything, that my site is during, that could be causing the issue. Might take some time, since it is a bit tricky to debug.

I'm assuming you'd need an account specifically on endlesstalk.org to use these frontend?

I'm already moderating a few communities so completely migrating to a new instance is probably not worth it for me (and I'd prefer to keep my sdf.org connections)

I'd love it if these alternative sites could use a login from a different instance somehow, basically operating in the same way a mobile app does

Yeah, for the frontends setup on endlesstalk.org you would need an account there, but the developers of the frontends have setup their own, where you can use an instance you want.

For Alexandrite there is https://alexandrite.app and for Mlmym there is https://mlmym.org

cool I'll check them out, thanks!

I completely stopped using reddit but that old.reddit.com interface is still the best imo