Report: Potential NYT lawsuit could force OpenAI to wipe ChatGPT and start over
arstechnica.com
cross-posted from: https://nom.mom/post/121481
OpenAI could be fined up to $150,000 for each piece of infringing content.https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/report-potential-nyt-lawsuit-could-force-openai-to-wipe-chatgpt-and-start-over/#comments
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When OpenAI commits copyright infringement no one bats an eye, but when I do it everyone downvotes me
Yeah I don't get it. ChatGPT is not "Fair use" and there is no credit given to anyone, it's a solid case against them
I just wonder if they'll get out of it because LLMs do reword the information instead of spitting it back out verbatim. It's the same reason I think the image generators are safe from copyright law - it's just different enough that they could plausibly convince a judge with a fair use argument.
What bothers me even more is all the text they had to scrape to create ChatGPT... That seems like a novel problem for the legal system because you know there's no way they paid for all of it.
I think for it to be fair use under American law they would need to give full credit, which they obviously don't.
LLMs do no such thing. They abstract information which is a non copyrightable process. Copyright is specific to specific presentation, explicitly non converting style, concepts or facts.
I'm not 100% sure where I stand but, for arguments sake; Are you sure about that? it sure is transformative!
It’s wishful thinking on your part. Every AI model in existence, from computer vision to the photo adjustments in your phone camera was trained this way.
The only reason there’s a stink now is that certain lobbies suddenly lose their job as opposed to blue collar workers.
But there’s more than a decade of precedent now to fall back on and not one legal case to show that it’s not fair use.
So would you kindly cite the case decisions that back up your assertion? Or are you just hallucinating like an LLM because you want a certain outcome to be true? Geez, I wonder where the technology learned that.
Classic joke, something like: if you owe the bank $100, it's your problem; if you owe them a million, it's their problem.
Only on lemmy.world
Society moment.