You know what's so much more expensive? Teenagers having babies. That shit is expensive for everyone. Having a child's life ruined and forced to raise a child into another ill prepared adult. Costs society lots of money.
I mean yeah but Cali is an abortion rights state so those factors are less present in the decision than they would be elsewhere
Abortions don’t just fall out of the sky. First trimester abortions are in the 300-900 range, and second trimester round about 1k-2k. Just comparing the raw cost of the procedure and omitting opportunity costs from recovery time and additional cost from complications, rubbers are real cheap.
Not to mention emotional cost.
Republican assholes always frame abortions as this whimsical thing women do, between errands.
It's very emotionally draining, often difficult decision even if you are sure you don't want / can't afford a kid.
The anti-choice movement has twisted this whole discussion so badly we're not even looking at the people most affected by all of this.
Yes but I was speaking relative to states where you can't get that. This would be a much more egregious decision in a state like Texas where it seems to be the prevailing legal theory that a woman is expected to die rather than have access to even a top expense abortion.
Not to mention how early term abortion pills will likely reduce such financial and opportunity costs.
Not getting pregnant is the best scenario for those that aren't ready for children. Despite easy access to abortion services some may feel guilt about ending a pregnancy early and have the child because it's the "right thing to do" even though it may lead to a terrible quality of life for mother and child.
Yes but my point was that in California, that choice, as hard as it is, is still available to them. A decision such as this would be much more egregious in Texas where even that hard decision is not available to them.
I think the point here is to prevent abortions. Nobody wants to have an abortion.
Yeah, I know that, my point is that it's in California instead of a state like Texas where someone doesn't even get that.
You know what's so much more expensive? Teenagers having babies. That shit is expensive for everyone. Having a child's life ruined and forced to raise a child into another ill prepared adult. Costs society lots of money.
I mean yeah but Cali is an abortion rights state so those factors are less present in the decision than they would be elsewhere
Abortions don’t just fall out of the sky. First trimester abortions are in the 300-900 range, and second trimester round about 1k-2k. Just comparing the raw cost of the procedure and omitting opportunity costs from recovery time and additional cost from complications, rubbers are real cheap.
Not to mention emotional cost.
Republican assholes always frame abortions as this whimsical thing women do, between errands.
It's very emotionally draining, often difficult decision even if you are sure you don't want / can't afford a kid.
The anti-choice movement has twisted this whole discussion so badly we're not even looking at the people most affected by all of this.
Yes but I was speaking relative to states where you can't get that. This would be a much more egregious decision in a state like Texas where it seems to be the prevailing legal theory that a woman is expected to die rather than have access to even a top expense abortion.
Not to mention how early term abortion pills will likely reduce such financial and opportunity costs.
Not getting pregnant is the best scenario for those that aren't ready for children. Despite easy access to abortion services some may feel guilt about ending a pregnancy early and have the child because it's the "right thing to do" even though it may lead to a terrible quality of life for mother and child.
Yes but my point was that in California, that choice, as hard as it is, is still available to them. A decision such as this would be much more egregious in Texas where even that hard decision is not available to them.
I think the point here is to prevent abortions. Nobody wants to have an abortion.
Yeah, I know that, my point is that it's in California instead of a state like Texas where someone doesn't even get that.