What is the Israel thing going on?

_number8_@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world – 192 points –

seems like the 'safe' public opinion is 'we stand behind israel' and the left opinion is palestinian support

i don't live there i don't have any particular interest or fascination with the region i don't understand any of this pls don't yell at me

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Image showing land ownership changes over the last century:

https://sites.psu.edu/anaouf2/files/2017/02/israel-palestine_map_19225_2469-vrwani.jpg

Wtf! So Israel is the bad guy?

It depends on who you chat to.

The Rhetoric from Hamas (militant organisation who seek Palestines liberation, also deemed a terrorist organisation by numerous countries and organisations such as the UK), who are backed by Iran is literally we will wipe Israel (jews) off the planet. After having the Nazis and other groups attempt to do that previously, there is definitely an argument that Israel are defending themselves and have the right to do so.

Would you ever feel comfortable with a neighbour who is a murderer of a member of your family even if you owned an arsenal of guns and had the police in a car watching your property?

Palestine isn't recognised globally as a country whilst Israel is a 'Western' country in the middle East and the ally of many countries such as the UK and USA.

Also Palestine and Hamas are not the same thing. Its like sayingb the KKK is representative of all of the USA.

The whole situation from its inception after ww2 to now is fucked.

i think its worth looking further back in time too.

where it would be yellow for a thousand years, then green again? how far back do you go for authenticity? People have been fighting over this land since 3000bc. Let's just go back 500,000 years and we can all agree it's no one's fucking land.

Go back 4.5 billion years and its not even land, just a seething cauldron of lava.

my man, go back 4.5b is my motto....

TFW the time traveller accidentally types 4.5b instead of 4.5m in the console

I just checked and looks like Israel and British were no different. No wonder hamas attacked as this is not one sided. This war has been brewing from a long time but at least now I got a clear picture.

This war has happened many times before, Arab states either funding or directly participating in an invasion of Israel with the goal of eliminating it.

This is a situation that transcends good guy/bad guy. On any side of the matter you can point to atrocities that the other side has committed, agreements and international laws that they've broken, things that could justify violence if you really want to justify violence.