Philip Morris lobbying to stop WHO ‘attack’ on vapes and similar products

Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to World News@lemmy.world – 481 points –
Philip Morris lobbying to stop WHO ‘attack’ on vapes and similar products
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How exactly are they bad for you? Where's the studies? You gotta be 21 to buy them, at least in the US. I quit smoking and use vapes exclusively and I can tell a huge difference in how I feel and breathe

I've been vaping for 10 years and you're kidding me with this right? Of course it's not good for you.

Yeah I was about to say, I quit smoking like 10 years ago. Then due to stressful situations and poor decisions making skills, I began vaping (I want to quit, fuck past me). I 100% know for a fact my lungs are way worse than before. Not as bad as when I was smoking a pack and a half a day, but I play guitar and sing often. It's noticable.

Just because it isn't good for you doesn't mean it is bad for you

In this case yes, it absolute does. But justify it however you need.

Do you think inhaling anything besides air on a regular basis could possibly be good for your lungs?

There's multiple completed ten-year studies on vaporizer use available with pretty high N. More frequent sickness and lung injury are shown to raise demonstrably over a five to ten year use period. It's less pronounced than cigarette smoking, but it is an unhealthy choice.

So you're breathing slightly less toxic gas and therefore clearly it's great and good for you.

Absolutely zero logic.

I'm not going to try and find the studies for you because I'm on a phone right now, you can go Google it if you're actually interested, not that you will, but be assured the studies are out there otherwise they wouldn't be talking about regulation.

you can go Google it if you’re actually interested

Fuck that, you made a claim and the onus on you is to back it up.

Ah the classic except it isn't on me because my claim isn't extraordinary, your claim is your claim is that in taking toxic gases is not bad for you that's the extraordinary claim the onus is on you to back it.

Quote me where I made that claim, much less any claim at all, go ahead.

The only comment I have in this entire thread is calling you out about your "you google it" bs.

Where did I say vapes are good for you? Still don't see any links to any studies. They're better than cigarettes, period.