Linux way way slower than Windows?

Canadian_Cabinet @lemmy.ca to Linux@lemmy.ml – 109 points –

So I jumped ship from Windows to Kubuntu last night, and It's mostly been pretty good. However my general performance of the computer has been abysmal. Like it takes upwards of 5 seconds to open anything. All of my hardware seems to be running at max speeds, so I have no idea why it would be so sluggish? It's as if I'm running on 2gb of ram and a cpu at like 1.5ghz. My specs are:

i7-8700k at 4.7ghz max Amd Rx 6750xt 16gb ram at 3200mhz Linux is on an m.2

Any ideas? This is practically unusable for any normal operations, let alone any gaming.

Update: So it seems like my CPU is being throttled to it's min of 800mhz because the temp is just below 100c. Not sure why it's so high because I never got that high even in intensive gaming on Windows

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I would start by checking for any sort of errors in your system logs, such as /var/log/syslog or using dmesg -w. In my experience, Linux is almost universally faster than Windows.

Yeah, there's probably something wrong. This is good advice. Maybe some tool can also do a performance benchmark to find the culprit. I've seen a lot of Linux computers. And except for some strange hardware, it's supposed to be (at least) as fast as anything else.

Except for GNOME cause the DE is essentially a browser engine and CSS themes :)

no, you are wrong about it being slower, and also about it being a browser

Yeah sure, keep working in your delusions.

GNOME Shell is tightly integrated with Mutter, a compositing window manager and Wayland compositor. It is based upon Clutter to provide visual effects and hardware acceleration.[20] According to GNOME Shell maintainer[21] Owen Taylor, it is set up as a Mutter plugin largely written in JavaScript[22] and uses GUI widgets provided by GTK+ version 3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell

And yes, GNOME is slower than Windows, KDE and Xfce. Always has been, always will be. It might be polished but it is slow.

where is written that gnome is a browser?, they only use javascript, like they could have used anything else, still don't make it a browser, or like one

and yes it's lighter than windows, proved by ubuntu being recomended for lightweight OS(even when they use extensions and Snap), and where i said that it's lighter than KDE and Xfce for you to bring it up lol

By definition something that executes JS and parses CSS is a browser.

and yes it’s lighter than windows, proved by ubuntu being recomended for lightweight OS

Absolutely not. It gets recommended as a lightweight OS because 1) there are delusional people and 2) if you remove and stop everything on Windows 10 that you don't it will be faster, way faster than anything running GNOME.

The problem isn't the OS per si, the problem is the UI. GNOME is SLOW as hell and even if the OS behind it is way more efficient than Windows it will lose against a debloated Windows 10 setup because Window's UI is fully native and way faster.

By definition something that executes JS and parses CSS is a browser.

This is wrong. A browser parse a html document and construct a DOM, executing JavaScript and CSS are optional. GTK apps don't have DOM, GTK has ability to parse UI styles from css instead of from XML so styling can be separated from UI definitions. Modern UI toolkits like QT (used extensively by KDE) also have CSS supports.

I agree GNOME is resource heavy however that has nothing to do with Javascript being involved. The James Web Telescope uses Javascript for some of its core functionality (specifically managing its science modules), does that make it a web browser? I personally don't like GNOME either, but most of it is written in C, it has its own GUI library which is written in C. The Javascript code likely just is used to simplify calling the underlying C functions and CSS is used for customizing the actual UI elements.

You know, it's not that I don't like it, but if it was faster things would be better. Even on a 10th-gen i7 with all the RAM launching an App on GNOME is always slower than KDE or Xfce. You feel a slight delay, maybe half a second or so.

To be honest their entire ecosystem is very used friendly and you're kinda forced into GNOME as most GNOME apps will pull a ton of GNOME components with themselves even if you're on KDE or others.

I guess excel is also "just a browser" since it can run JS too?

Excel is everything, runs on a Browser, can run a Browser and everything in between :D

Which distribution of Windows would you recommend for this debloated experience?