Honda says making cheap electric vehicles is too hard, ends deal with GM

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Honda cancels plan for cheap electric vehicles, ending collaboration with GM
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Honda says making cheap electric vehicles is too hard, ends deal with GM::The platform was to use GM's Ultium batteries.

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We can buy Chinese cars. They are starting to kill it on EV’s, with an already expansive supply chain. It is only a matter of time before they start showing up in the US.

If they get approved by the DOT, which is unlikely both due to government sentiment towards Chinese businesses and the fact of they probably don’t actually meet our safety guidelines

Some of BYD's models just got 5 star saftey ratings in the EU.

Those super cheap, tiny, death trap looking cars, are mostly just that, but these newer EV companies are making better vehicles. They'll be in the US soon enough. Safety won't be an issue.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltaylor/2022/10/13/byd-ev-enters-europe-with-a-5-star-euro-ncap-safety-score

I see you don’t understand how lobbying works in this country.

There are already cars being built in China being brought into the USA.

All that's going to happen is these newer companies will need to meet our standards (BYD has proven they can now), deal with some politics bullshit, and end up having to deal with some hefty tariffs that will put them at a disadvantage.

They won't be completely stopped.

Edit: BYD already has busses running in the USA even.

Cars built in China is not the same thing as cars designed and manufactured entirely in China. And “some politics bullshit” is a hell of a way to describe overcoming the auto and union lobbies in the US.

They're also heavily subsidized by the Chinese government.

Unless something magic happens and evs get super cheap thats eventually going to end and they'll just be almost expensive death traps.

Chinese cars like Great Wall have been a thing in New Zealand for a long time but they’re quite terrible. Chinese built Teslas seem to be reasonably built, but I would steer clear of any cars built by a Chinese brand until there are long term reliability studies.

Amount of time before ban citing vague security risks like car technology could somehow be used by the military....3, 2, 1....

If you've ever seen how Chinese manufacturing continually lowers quality despite your contract requiring certain specs, you'd understand the problem.

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