It's so sad how many posters would rather blame OP for spending an extra dollar on better bread and veggie patties rather than actually acknowledge the blatant price gouging on food. The idea that everyone should only be buying the cheapest ingredients is just stupid. No one is living a fulfilling life eating nothing but cheap beans and rice everyday, and food prices have been ridiculous for a while now.
I miss the good ol days where inflation was so low, you could pick fruit off a vine/bush/tree and it was free
Nowadays, you have to pay HOA just to get a smell of that community cherry tree
The point is that it's all processed and premade, that's why it costs so much. Make your own beef patties with ground beef and some seasonings, just bake a damn dessert for once and stop getting the fancy artisanal bread and just go with whole wheat.
Nothing about that requires eating rice and beans, you just don't want to accept that some shit requires effort and when you outsource that you pay more.
Yeah food costs an insane amount, but you don't have to buy the "we did the work for you" tier of food if your income can't handle it. You're not entitled to having everything done for you. Learn to goddamn cook.
I can rarely find a pound of ground beef for under $9 now unless buying in massive bulk. Even produce has gotten insanely expensive in the last few years. Sometimes the raw ingredients are so expensive it's cheaper to buy the processed shit... Idk how anyone less fortunate can stay sane in the grocery store. Buying raw ingredients and cooking isn't a cheat code to save money.
I don't know where you are but a one pound package of 90% lean ground beef at my supermarket (Kroger) in Denver is $4.97
Same store, Gardein® Ultimate Plant-Based Burger Patties, package of 2 (8oz total) is $4.99
I'm in the SF bay area. Like I get that it's high cost of living and high wages, but even so doesn't justify such a huge price difference. I guess just some pretty crazy price gouging
The people that work in your grocery store need to afford to live in your high cost of living area, too. That means the stores have to pay them more which means they have to charge more. The same goes for the drivers that deliver the groceries to the store, the people that work in the warehouses of the suppliers, etc. It's higher cost of living all the way down.
The same store was doing fine on half the price of groceries three years ago. How can the poor mega corporation grocery store ever survive? Doesn't anyone ever think about the poor stock? And no, wages haven't doubled since then
You aren't looking hard enough. California has decent prices on lots of food because the farm is only hours away. There's no $9 ground beef unless you get it from the farmer's market. Also, just go to Berkeley Bowl.
I go to Berkely Bowl for niche ingredients I can't find anywhere else, and the produce is often cheaper and better quality, but meat seems roughly the same and everything else in the store has at least a $1 markup. Also I'm not going to sit in an hour of traffic after work just to maybe save a buck on meat while immediately offsetting that saving in the gas it took to get there. It's not always as easy as "just go to Berkely Bowl bro".
Prices have objectively increased in the last three years that can't be attributed to COL increases or inflation. The only thing left is profit.
The biggest saving would actually be the buns I would bet.
You could make your own 8 burger buns for like 10 cents.
There is nothing unfuflfilling about beans and rice. This is the staple diet of almost a billion people. We are just so far removed from reality that we think of a healthy diet as a terrible punishment.
You did not understand my comment very well. Beans and rice are great staple foods, I love them. A well rounded diet involves more than just beans and rice.
Beans and rice yummy farts in farts again my oh my another one bites to dust tummy
On a more serious note didn't early humans live a hunter gather life style eating both meats fish plants and vegetables I mean there's alot of evidence that shows that our ancestors lived hunter gather life styles also I'm fairly certain that most people didn't just eat beans and rice for billons of years
When a bad hunt means your kids starve plants seem like a much safer option.
Human ancestors had a varying diet that was regional and included bugs and wild plants and yes some animal protein. There are some estimates that they regularly consumed like 100g of fiber a day
Literally all modern evidence points to the healthier tribal and nomadic humans having animal-based diets.
Healthier teeth, healthier skin and hair, longer lifespans, better musculature.
I mean that was my original point but I don't think I portrayed that correctly at all early humans lived hunter gather life styles I think that's quite obvious at this point especially with all the scientific evidence pointing toward it plus moving around alot across continents and having to go out and hunt fish and forage for there food meant that they were way healthier stronger and fitter as you said as there getting a healthier diet and lots of exercise
what op said that for billons of years we lived of "beans and rice" which makes no sense whatsoever although I could be wrong I know beans on there own have a good selection of the nutrients you'll need to sustain yourselve but im not to sure on rice plus I'm fairly certain you can't eat rice and beans forever you'll have to supplement it with something as well
Plus I haven't read anywhere about humans sustaining themselves for billons of years on just a diet of beans and rice
It's alright, we know what you mean.
I actually said a billion people live on it, but why let reading get in the way of a defensive rant about meat.
And why actually bother to listen to and connect with another human being when you can snap back with a snarky comment instead?
The above persons whole comment is a reaction to something completely different from what I said. Was there an attempt to listen and connect on their part? Not really.
See, you're not reading or listening to what I'm saying either. That shows the problem is you.
Take a step back and really think hard about what's actually happening.
It's so sad how many posters would rather blame OP for spending an extra dollar on better bread and veggie patties rather than actually acknowledge the blatant price gouging on food. The idea that everyone should only be buying the cheapest ingredients is just stupid. No one is living a fulfilling life eating nothing but cheap beans and rice everyday, and food prices have been ridiculous for a while now.
I miss the good ol days where inflation was so low, you could pick fruit off a vine/bush/tree and it was free
Nowadays, you have to pay HOA just to get a smell of that community cherry tree
The point is that it's all processed and premade, that's why it costs so much. Make your own beef patties with ground beef and some seasonings, just bake a damn dessert for once and stop getting the fancy artisanal bread and just go with whole wheat.
Nothing about that requires eating rice and beans, you just don't want to accept that some shit requires effort and when you outsource that you pay more.
Yeah food costs an insane amount, but you don't have to buy the "we did the work for you" tier of food if your income can't handle it. You're not entitled to having everything done for you. Learn to goddamn cook.
I can rarely find a pound of ground beef for under $9 now unless buying in massive bulk. Even produce has gotten insanely expensive in the last few years. Sometimes the raw ingredients are so expensive it's cheaper to buy the processed shit... Idk how anyone less fortunate can stay sane in the grocery store. Buying raw ingredients and cooking isn't a cheat code to save money.
I don't know where you are but a one pound package of 90% lean ground beef at my supermarket (Kroger) in Denver is $4.97
Same store, Gardein® Ultimate Plant-Based Burger Patties, package of 2 (8oz total) is $4.99
I'm in the SF bay area. Like I get that it's high cost of living and high wages, but even so doesn't justify such a huge price difference. I guess just some pretty crazy price gouging
The people that work in your grocery store need to afford to live in your high cost of living area, too. That means the stores have to pay them more which means they have to charge more. The same goes for the drivers that deliver the groceries to the store, the people that work in the warehouses of the suppliers, etc. It's higher cost of living all the way down.
The same store was doing fine on half the price of groceries three years ago. How can the poor mega corporation grocery store ever survive? Doesn't anyone ever think about the poor stock? And no, wages haven't doubled since then
You aren't looking hard enough. California has decent prices on lots of food because the farm is only hours away. There's no $9 ground beef unless you get it from the farmer's market. Also, just go to Berkeley Bowl.
I go to Berkely Bowl for niche ingredients I can't find anywhere else, and the produce is often cheaper and better quality, but meat seems roughly the same and everything else in the store has at least a $1 markup. Also I'm not going to sit in an hour of traffic after work just to maybe save a buck on meat while immediately offsetting that saving in the gas it took to get there. It's not always as easy as "just go to Berkely Bowl bro".
Prices have objectively increased in the last three years that can't be attributed to COL increases or inflation. The only thing left is profit.
The biggest saving would actually be the buns I would bet.
You could make your own 8 burger buns for like 10 cents.
There is nothing unfuflfilling about beans and rice. This is the staple diet of almost a billion people. We are just so far removed from reality that we think of a healthy diet as a terrible punishment.
You did not understand my comment very well. Beans and rice are great staple foods, I love them. A well rounded diet involves more than just beans and rice.
Beans and rice yummy
fartsinfarts againmyoh my another one bites to dusttummyOn a more serious note didn't early humans live a hunter gather life style eating both meats fish plants and vegetables I mean there's alot of evidence that shows that our ancestors lived hunter gather life styles also I'm fairly certain that most people didn't just eat beans and rice for billons of years
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-gatherer
https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/resource-library-hunter-gatherers/
When a bad hunt means your kids starve plants seem like a much safer option.
Human ancestors had a varying diet that was regional and included bugs and wild plants and yes some animal protein. There are some estimates that they regularly consumed like 100g of fiber a day
Literally all modern evidence points to the healthier tribal and nomadic humans having animal-based diets.
Healthier teeth, healthier skin and hair, longer lifespans, better musculature.
I mean that was my original point but I don't think I portrayed that correctly at all early humans lived hunter gather life styles I think that's quite obvious at this point especially with all the scientific evidence pointing toward it plus moving around alot across continents and having to go out and hunt fish and forage for there food meant that they were way healthier stronger and fitter as you said as there getting a healthier diet and lots of exercise
what op said that for billons of years we lived of "beans and rice" which makes no sense whatsoever although I could be wrong I know beans on there own have a good selection of the nutrients you'll need to sustain yourselve but im not to sure on rice plus I'm fairly certain you can't eat rice and beans forever you'll have to supplement it with something as well
Plus I haven't read anywhere about humans sustaining themselves for billons of years on just a diet of beans and rice
It's alright, we know what you mean.
I actually said a billion people live on it, but why let reading get in the way of a defensive rant about meat.
And why actually bother to listen to and connect with another human being when you can snap back with a snarky comment instead?
The above persons whole comment is a reaction to something completely different from what I said. Was there an attempt to listen and connect on their part? Not really.
See, you're not reading or listening to what I'm saying either. That shows the problem is you.
Take a step back and really think hard about what's actually happening.