There are no real numbers from china, how many people are actually imprisoned or what even means imprisoned. For example the Uyghurs are not Prisoners in Prison but "Citizens in reeducation camps"- what is a lie. Pictures show they are indeed imprisoned . China is fudging these numbers like the economy numbers at a grand scale.
China is able to force people to work in certain regions or cities. They have a complex system on how to channel work by prohibiting living-, healthcare- and pensions-systems to citizens based on their location and citizens need to apply for changes to these systems to be able to work in other regions.
China - as an authoritarian regime - can force every prisoner to work if they deem it useful. The US has different rules for penal labor, but not make prisoners work like china. The US has a much different landscape.
China undercut every good, in every sector (except some high tech sectors) based on their vast (forced) workforce but also in the strategic sense. They act like Uber (or is Uber acting like China?) in the sense, that their strategy in the last 4 decades was to undercut e.g. Steel-Production for their own advances, but also to cripple the industries in the US and the West in general to come out as the sole supplier for these products and services to then control the prices (like Uber). The US Steelworker Industry is practically gone by now. They did the same with raw-materials and lately with Solar, where they undercut the European (German) markets, to cripple it and control the production/income/spread.
They have a complex system on how to channel work by prohibiting living-, healthcare- and pensions-systems to citizens based on their location and citizens need to apply for changes to these systems to be able to work in other regions.
This is called indentured servitude, it was common in feudal societies.
BTW, you should add a new line between points to have proper formatting
Tell it to the 13th Amendment:
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction
Coincidentally, those convicted parties are predominantly Black.
Person A: it's bad that China is bad.
Person B: OMFG but USA bad too!
Like, do you actually think this is a real defense for China's behavior? Or are you just blustering because you understand there is no defense and that hurts your world view?
The OP claimed China has a competitive edge from prison labour. I disproved that statement.
Not really. Because China'a numbers are demonstrably false. It's the good old "you can't prove it's happening if we just don't count them" logic.
You can disprove China's numbers... How, exactly?
Satellites help.
Satellites to... See people?
Yes, and prison camps and other structures, changes in landscape over time, and so on. I'm sure if you really think hard you'll come up with all sorts of ways to get information out of a country when you don't trust the numbers the government there is giving, especially if you think in terms of having lots of resources. Check out how people in North Korea get access to the unfiltered internet and western media, for example; similar techniques are used to exfiltrate data to piece together the whole picture.
What granularity do you think satellites shoot at?
An opinion piece with no quantitative analysis? Nice.
Your question was
What granularity do you think satellites shoot at?
If you are truly unable to divine the answer to your question from the article from a reputable source that talks about the privacy implications of satellites that can track individual human movements I am happy to spell it out for you:
I don't think, I know that satellites are capable of tracking individual human movements. There are specialized satellites for different types of information gathering, such as those that can identify an individual by their biometrics (https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/06/27/238884/the-pentagon-has-a-laser-that-can-identify-people-from-a-distanceby-their-heartbeat/). Combine that with imaging in the electromagnetic spectrum, the infrared spectrum, on-the ground spies, unauthorised access to local network infrastructure (hacking), and you can pretty quickly figure out if you're looking at a hundred thousand people in an area, or a million.
Honestly, this is pretty easy stuff to research. Did you just not bother, or?
This post has so many controversial aspects:
This is called indentured servitude, it was common in feudal societies.
BTW, you should add a new line between points to have proper formatting
Tell it to the 13th Amendment:
Coincidentally, those convicted parties are predominantly Black.
Person A: it's bad that China is bad.
Person B: OMFG but USA bad too!
Like, do you actually think this is a real defense for China's behavior? Or are you just blustering because you understand there is no defense and that hurts your world view?
The OP claimed China has a competitive edge from prison labour. I disproved that statement.
Not really. Because China'a numbers are demonstrably false. It's the good old "you can't prove it's happening if we just don't count them" logic.
You can disprove China's numbers... How, exactly?
Satellites help.
Satellites to... See people?
Yes, and prison camps and other structures, changes in landscape over time, and so on. I'm sure if you really think hard you'll come up with all sorts of ways to get information out of a country when you don't trust the numbers the government there is giving, especially if you think in terms of having lots of resources. Check out how people in North Korea get access to the unfiltered internet and western media, for example; similar techniques are used to exfiltrate data to piece together the whole picture.
What granularity do you think satellites shoot at?
https://journals.law.harvard.edu/hrj/2023/11/privacy-and-veracity-implications-of-the-use-of-satellite-imagery-from-private-companies-as-evidence-in-human-rights-investigations/
An opinion piece with no quantitative analysis? Nice.
Your question was
If you are truly unable to divine the answer to your question from the article from a reputable source that talks about the privacy implications of satellites that can track individual human movements I am happy to spell it out for you:
I don't think, I know that satellites are capable of tracking individual human movements. There are specialized satellites for different types of information gathering, such as those that can identify an individual by their biometrics (https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/06/27/238884/the-pentagon-has-a-laser-that-can-identify-people-from-a-distanceby-their-heartbeat/). Combine that with imaging in the electromagnetic spectrum, the infrared spectrum, on-the ground spies, unauthorised access to local network infrastructure (hacking), and you can pretty quickly figure out if you're looking at a hundred thousand people in an area, or a million.
Honestly, this is pretty easy stuff to research. Did you just not bother, or?