IDF conducts operation in Hamas-controlled hospital, apprehends 90 terrorists

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IDF conducts operation in Hamas-controlled hospital, apprehends 90 terrorists - I24NEWS
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Hospital workers confessed to concealing weapons in incubators in the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU), a space intended for treating premature babies.

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Hey look, they CAN do something other than bomb the place into rubble and shoot everything that moves.

They can also force confessions of terrorism! Pretty bold headline that's parroting IDF propaganda, if you ask me. Wouldn't say this article belongs in a news community.

You could very well be right, but even if true it gives the lie to weeks of their excuses for how they have handled this so far.

This is also true. Any way you cut it, the IDF are the villains in this story.

Who will save the Palestinian population from Hamas, that setup military cells in civil buildings, schools and hospitals?

Did anyone tried to save them?

Did anyone succeed saving them?

By the current ongoing IDF revelations, since Israel disengaged from Gaza (2005) as an attempt to give Palestinians independence, there was ongoing terror prosper, not Palestinians prosper, but terror prosper.

Funny how the anti-Israel crowd moves the goal posts from there is no evidence to, this is IDF propaganda and can't be trusted. I guess the footage they released of Hamas tunnels was also faked? The footage of belligerents shooting from the hospital too?

On one of those videos that the Israeli soldiers filmed themselves and then posted (because they don't think they've done anything wrong), there's one where they're singing a song about attacking their enemies and one of the lyrics was something to the effect of "there are no civilians" among the Palestinians.

Of course, if the Israelis think that there are no Palestinian civilians, that means that every Palestinian is an enemy soldier, and therefore a legitimate target. :/

It's true that I don't trust the IDF here, just as I wouldn't trust the SS in WWII. If you think that's farfetched, then I will hope you come to your senses.

Soo, you trust Hamas instead?

IDF slogan "Hamas was all the bodies we created along the way"

Lol gotta love these deflections and whataboutisms. I always wonder if you lot are deliberately deflecting, or if you're just incapable of engaging in any meaningful way.

It is a valid question if you do not trust IDF as source of information. It is not diversion tactics.

Incorrect. I challenge you to scour my post and comment history for any mention of Hamas or anything that would justify you asking such a question. (I'll save you some time -- you won't find it.)

Otherwise, we'll just assume you're deflecting.

So, which information you chose to believe then? A made up one as you see fit?

Can you show me 40 decapitated babies?

I will start to consider trusting them after that.

More than 100 bodies found in Israeli kibbutz Be’eri after Hamas attack (CNN) I don't know whether they are decapitated or not, but these are who IDF fight against, babies murderers.

The point was that the IDF made a big deal in the opening days about how they had found forty decapitated babies, and used that as proof of how bad Hamas was.

That was the one where they went too far and everybody started wanting proof of so outlandish a claim.

I really wish I could find the video where the IDF guy say something like” we know we have lied in the past but this time it is different.”

Those babies are where people started doubting them and looking at everything so clearly

It isn't related to this article.

The article state facts, and they'll remain facts until otherwise proofed regarding this article.

You are being wrong saying it's a propaganda because this is not a lie. It's an official report from within Gaza.

I have no doubt there are official confessions obtained via coercion including threats and possible torture.

I do have a doubt, because there is no proof it happened.

However, there is a proof that weapons were found next to baby incubators.

After Hamas killed more than 100 babies with their own hands, I actually won't have a doubt they'll put weapons next to these babies.

You can have doubt, you can not believe it, it's ok, but facts are facts.

Hamas is brutal and bad for the Palestinians, prove me otherwise.

Those soldiers went in after the bombings. You're inaccurately implying that they should have gone in without air support, which would have caused massive casualties to their side.

which would have caused massive casualties to their side.

And those are the only casualties that matter!

In war, yes, it should be unsurprising that one's own forces are considered more important to protect than enemy forces, or civilians from a hostile nation.

"Enemy civilians." Implying all Palestinians are members of Hamas and thus deserving of death. How humanitarian of you.

The 7000 children killed in Gaza were not anyone's enemy. Because they were children.

I edited my comment to be more clear and concise, but you replied too soon, I had a feeling you'd interpret that phrase in the least charitable way possible.

Civilians from a hostile nation is more accurate, although widespread public support of intifada doesn't mean you're entirely wrong. Despite this, israel is still choosing military targets, unlike their opponent.

How exactly should have I interpreted the phrase "enemy civilians?" What is the charitable interpretation of that phrase?

Civilians from an enemy nation that's at war with yours

Gaza is not an enemy nation. It is not even a nation. This is supposed to be a war between Israel and Hamas. Not Israel and the Palestinian people. You are still saying all those children's deaths were justified.

a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

Sounds like a nation to me.
Hamas is the government of Gaza.
When one's government goes to war, the people who live under it are subjected to the consequences. This is how war works.

That still sounds like you're saying all of those children's deaths were justified.

It's terrible, it's tragic, it's unfortunate, but yes it's justified provided these deaths are collateral damage when attacking valid military targets, as it seems they are.

What is not justifiable is using them as human shields and hiding among them. This is what caused these deaths: Hamas murdering Israeli civilians while hiding behind the children of their own nation.

Why Palestinians don't have more outrage for Hamas than they do for the IDF is beyond me.

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There's supposed to be international law that restrains nations when they go to war. Instead, Israel is butchering children by the thousands.

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Ah, I see, you're likely one of those singing that song. :(

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