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St Paul the fictional character or the real city?

St. Paul, the guy who co-founded Christianity the Roman tax collector that we have historical records that for a fact indicate he existed, that guy.

Ok bud. Sure thing.

People like you are the reason I'm embarrassed to call myself an atheist.

What's even funnier is while I am a "Christian", this is actually a very critical Christian meme. But I'm also of the belief that most satanists make better Christians than Christians do so...

It is kinda funny to imagine Minnesota being run by a bunch of based satanists feeding kids and such.

Sounds like the kind of people Jesus would hang out with.

Honestly? Nah. Jesus wouldn’t be hanging with Satanists because that would be preaching to the converted - His work is already done. Fact is that Jesus likely would spend his time with right-wing Christofascists, but he would spend all of his time trying to convince them why they’re wrong. He’d be crucified again, but that’s kinda His deal. He hung out with vagrants and prostitutes because those were the ones who needed Him most; these days the ones who need Him most are the false Christians.

He spent a good amount of time hanging out with the fishermen. You know the people that would feed the community. I'm not saying you're wrong though. But I don't think he would be hanging out as much as lecturing the christians

I think there's a distinct difference between him with the 'sinners' and him with the fishermen. By my probably biased understanding, most of what he did with the fishermen/apostles was tell them what to do, like one facet of a leader. And what he seemed to do with everyone else was uplift and occasionally teach, also like a leader.

Again, biased, I'm a Mormon.

Honestly I consider it a consequence of how long Christianity functioned as a state affair

Christians who sit in pews like angels and then don't even glance towards the needy aren't so much signaling their own piety as much as acting out a previously enforced by law custom for which not obliging would get you condemned by your community.

The conservative doesn't see traditions as an expression of a culture and its values, but rather as rituals that they had to endure whether they liked it or not and so now you do too.

My dad's a devout Christian and the man let me and my sis both stop attending church long before we were both old enough to go away to college, although tbf that may have been more because he was sick of the effort of waking us both up for the sermon he wanted to go to lol.

Then don’t. I don’t believe in any god. I just don’t call myself an atheist. I’m just not anything. If there was a survey of which religion I belonged to, I just wouldn’t check any box. Then I don’t have to associate myself with any group, I just am.

That's the definition of an atheist bro. A theist believes in a higher power and an atheist does not.

“It’s odd that the word atheist even exists. I don’t play golf. Is there a word for non-golf players? Do non-golf players gather and strategize? Do non-skiers have a word and come together and talk about the fact that they don’t ski?”

  • Neil deGrasse Tyson

This is a pretty sad take from NdT, and it comes across as though he were attempting to dodge a question. Perhaps even to avoid being labeled, which is probably why you like it.

If 99% of the population were golfers, and 1% weren't, there would almost certainly be a word for the people who didn't golf. Same applies to theists. Up until very recently it would have been considered quite unusual to not be a theist.

Atheists did not decide on that label. The word is believed to have initially been pejorative.

What the fuck are you spouting off about? The other comment was called out for not knowing history

To be fair, Paul was probably real. Not all the writings we attribute to him are his.

We know he was alive for a fact based on multiple historical examples and cross references. What we don't know is whether or not he was divinely inspired or high as balls.

St. Paul the sandwich

The St. Paul sandwich is wildly underappreciated. I had never heard of it before I lived in Missouri, and after I left I found that, like me, most people have never even heard of it. It's a sad state of affairs.

The St. Paul sandwich is a national treasure. It's a uniquely American food that only exists by dint of the "melting pot" of cultures that we as a country used to count among our best features.

The St. Paul sandwich is wildly underappreciated. I had never heard of it before I lived in Missouri, and after I left I found that, like me, most people have never even heard of it. It's a sad state of affairs.

That might be due to the fact that according to Wikipedia, this sandwich is a Missouri thing. Although I’ll agree it does sound tasty and I’d certainly try it if I saw it somewhere.

Perhaps this means you’ve been called to spread the good news of the St. Paul Sandwich to other states…

Perhaps this means you’ve been called to spread the good news of the St. Paul Sandwich to other states…

You're absolutely right, and it's exactly why I'm here preaching! I don't yet preach the gospel of St. Paul (the sandwich) to every single person I meet, but I'm working up to it.

I think what's so maddening about the situation is that you can get egg foo young at nearly every Chinese take-out joint in the US, but only in Missouri are they willing to slap it on some cheap white bread for you. The best part is, it's an incredibly cheap meal, that isn't completely bereft of nutrition. When I lived in Missouri you could get a St. Paul sandwich for like... $2. It was always one of the cheapest things on the menu, and it saved my then-broke, kitchen-less ass more than once!

These days I just take the necessary ingredients to the restaurant with me, order the egg foo young, then assemble the sandwich right there on the takeout counter, while maintaining eye contact with the nearest employee. I think they're getting the message.

Have you considered opening a food stand and selling them? Perhaps others would enjoy them too, and be willing to pay you for that. I would.

I've definitely considered opening a St. Paul Sandwich food truck or street-cart, but I do worry that it's not my place to do so. People often catch flak for "cultural appropriation" these days, and I don't want to offend, or be persecuted, as a white man selling a Chinese-American specialty.

Plus I'd have to give up my day job and take a big leap of faith. Now, I've never introduced the sandwich to anyone who didn't end up enjoying it, once they tried it, but I'm just not confident enough that it would take off. Maybe I should just do it on weekends to test the waters?

Maybe I should just do it on weekends to test the waters?

That sounds like a great idea. Definitely don’t just quit your job without testing the idea first. Start cheap and small, and if there is enough demand, you can always upsize later.