Then don't buy it? I really don't understand the online community.
It's a follow up game, there are expectations.
If only there was some method to check the gameplay after release and decide if you want to purchase.
Emotionally pre-ordering a game based on your own expectations is a meme.
I wanted to play KSP2 and waited an actual decade for it so I could go to space with my friends. Upon release I checked gameplay and reviews and never ended up buying it. I voted with my wallet and not my complaints, it's that simple
Emotionally pre-ordering a game based on your own expectations is a meme.
I shouldn't expect a sequel to do at least what the previous game did and a little more? I don't have to pre-order a thing to still be disappointed about the state of it's release when it doesn't even meet the bare minimum expectation for a sequel.
It even works in the opposite way. I didn't get The Witcher 3 at launch because of the expectations set by the first 2 games being technical nightmares. But it turned out to actually be good.
I shouldn’t expect a sequel to do at least what the previous game did and a little more?
Should it be the case? Yes. But we've been burned enough times that it's incredibly naive to expect it.
I agree with that sentiment for movies; not so much with video games. I can think of way more video game sequels that were actually better than the originals than video game sequels that were worse.
I agree. But also we've seen so many games come out that are absolute disasters that if you are buying it on day 1 (or even before) instead of waiting for the reviews to come out before buying it, you only have yourself to blame when you get burned.
I loved C:S and was very excited for this sequel to come out...but I haven't bought it because the reviews before it came out were mixed (being generous lol) and so I still haven't bought it. I'll wait or maybe never buy it. Likely I wait for the price to drop to like 15 bucks and buy it then.
Weve been burned precisely because no one held the gaming industry accountable for the state of their games.
Speak for yourself, I haven't bought a game at release for well over a decade, and even at that point it was pretty rare for me.
If only there had been a game that you had played thousands of hours on and had high hopes for the sequel.
Also, you waited a decade to play a game you wanted to play? That's a you problem.
If only there had been a game that you had played thousands of hours on and had high hopes for the sequel.
He's not arguing against hoping for a better sequel. He's telling people to stop pre-ordering games without knowing how good the game is going to be.
Also, you waited a decade to play a game you wanted to play? That’s a you problem.
Read his reply again. He waited 10 years for it to release and get reviewed before making an informed purchasing decision. He made a smart move.
Ksp released 2015 so unless they were awaiting its sequel 1 year before it released they are chatting shit. Facts mean nothing to you do they?
Perhaps on Steam KSP1 was release in 2015.. they had a standalone version of KSP1 in 2011 which is 12 years apart from KSP2 which was released in 2023. Smug fucker.
The first public version was released digitally on Squad's Kerbal Space Program storefront on 24 June 2011, and joined Steam's early access program on 20 March 2013.
Now please, continue gaslighting me about how I'm "chatting shit". Get better at arguing
This is the part where you apologize for being rude and wrong and we all move on with our lives having learned something new.
No shame in that.
Happy weekend friend!
Expectations that people made up in their heads. If you followed any of the pre-release media, you knew exactly what you were getting, including the performance issues.
People are well within their rights in being deeply disappointed by something that they had high hopes for. Go figure.
People are within their rights to feel (and I quote) "insulted" for getting scammed by something which is easily avoidable by having even the slightest bit of patience?
Honest 2020s meme
People that have that attitude are why almost every game released today is 3/4ths finished at release. If people dont complain about the sorry state of the industry, the industry has no reason to change.
Agreed although complaining isn't the solution, voting with your wallet is the solution
Voting with your wallet requires that someone else have warned you about that game not being worth buying. Complaints are your friend.
That's my entire point
I consistently don't buy games that aren't ready by being a patient shopper, and watching reviews or gameplay before spending money. If you consistently jump on the hype train, buy a copy before knowing anything about the state of the game, and then "complain" to fix it, I have news:
10/10 AAA publishers would rather have $60 and a complaint than $0.
Due diligence is the solution, publishers are now very practiced at weathering criticism.
I haven't played CS2, but the game isn't in early access or anything. It was sold as a full price, finished product. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be unhappy that the finished product they bought was actually unfinished, and then be frustrated with how long it's taking for the fixes to arrive.
Sure the game might be fixed later, but that doesn't change the fact that people feel like they got something less than they were promised.
Then don't buy it? I really don't understand the online community.
It's a follow up game, there are expectations.
If only there was some method to check the gameplay after release and decide if you want to purchase.
Emotionally pre-ordering a game based on your own expectations is a meme.
I wanted to play KSP2 and waited an actual decade for it so I could go to space with my friends. Upon release I checked gameplay and reviews and never ended up buying it. I voted with my wallet and not my complaints, it's that simple
I shouldn't expect a sequel to do at least what the previous game did and a little more? I don't have to pre-order a thing to still be disappointed about the state of it's release when it doesn't even meet the bare minimum expectation for a sequel.
It even works in the opposite way. I didn't get The Witcher 3 at launch because of the expectations set by the first 2 games being technical nightmares. But it turned out to actually be good.
Should it be the case? Yes. But we've been burned enough times that it's incredibly naive to expect it.
I agree with that sentiment for movies; not so much with video games. I can think of way more video game sequels that were actually better than the originals than video game sequels that were worse.
I agree. But also we've seen so many games come out that are absolute disasters that if you are buying it on day 1 (or even before) instead of waiting for the reviews to come out before buying it, you only have yourself to blame when you get burned.
I loved C:S and was very excited for this sequel to come out...but I haven't bought it because the reviews before it came out were mixed (being generous lol) and so I still haven't bought it. I'll wait or maybe never buy it. Likely I wait for the price to drop to like 15 bucks and buy it then.
Weve been burned precisely because no one held the gaming industry accountable for the state of their games.
Speak for yourself, I haven't bought a game at release for well over a decade, and even at that point it was pretty rare for me.
If only there had been a game that you had played thousands of hours on and had high hopes for the sequel.
Also, you waited a decade to play a game you wanted to play? That's a you problem.
He's not arguing against hoping for a better sequel. He's telling people to stop pre-ordering games without knowing how good the game is going to be.
Read his reply again. He waited 10 years for it to release and get reviewed before making an informed purchasing decision. He made a smart move.
Ksp released 2015 so unless they were awaiting its sequel 1 year before it released they are chatting shit. Facts mean nothing to you do they?
Perhaps on Steam KSP1 was release in 2015.. they had a standalone version of KSP1 in 2011 which is 12 years apart from KSP2 which was released in 2023. Smug fucker.
The first public version was released digitally on Squad's Kerbal Space Program storefront on 24 June 2011, and joined Steam's early access program on 20 March 2013.
Now please, continue gaslighting me about how I'm "chatting shit". Get better at arguing
This is the part where you apologize for being rude and wrong and we all move on with our lives having learned something new.
No shame in that.
Happy weekend friend!
Expectations that people made up in their heads. If you followed any of the pre-release media, you knew exactly what you were getting, including the performance issues.
People are well within their rights in being deeply disappointed by something that they had high hopes for. Go figure.
People are within their rights to feel (and I quote) "insulted" for getting scammed by something which is easily avoidable by having even the slightest bit of patience?
Honest 2020s meme
People that have that attitude are why almost every game released today is 3/4ths finished at release. If people dont complain about the sorry state of the industry, the industry has no reason to change.
Agreed although complaining isn't the solution, voting with your wallet is the solution
Voting with your wallet requires that someone else have warned you about that game not being worth buying. Complaints are your friend.
That's my entire point
I consistently don't buy games that aren't ready by being a patient shopper, and watching reviews or gameplay before spending money. If you consistently jump on the hype train, buy a copy before knowing anything about the state of the game, and then "complain" to fix it, I have news:
10/10 AAA publishers would rather have $60 and a complaint than $0.
Due diligence is the solution, publishers are now very practiced at weathering criticism.
I haven't played CS2, but the game isn't in early access or anything. It was sold as a full price, finished product. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be unhappy that the finished product they bought was actually unfinished, and then be frustrated with how long it's taking for the fixes to arrive.
Sure the game might be fixed later, but that doesn't change the fact that people feel like they got something less than they were promised.
Yes.