A Supreme Court decision could come Monday in a case about barring Trump from the 2024 ballot

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A Supreme Court decision could come Monday in a case about barring Trump from the 2024 ballot
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Sadly, the 'right thing' in this case actually is to rule against Colorado. It will be an utter shit-show with each state deciding which candidates can or can't run in their state if this is upheld.

It's based on a legal theory from the constitution. There's no grey area on this one, just what brand of feelings people use to justify their position.

There is actually good reason to keep someone off a ballot who attempts a coup, and tries to take power by undemocratic means. And it's not really that hard to see where the reasoning comes in.

And this should be done at the federal level, not the state level.

When the constitution was written, the federal government didn't have really any power.

That's why they gave this to states and not federal.

States already do that with minimums on signatures for third parties and other ballot requirements.

This just happens to affect one of the two big parties.

I kinda get what you mean, but this is a candidate who tried to overthrow the government. There's legal and logical basis for excluding them from being a candidate.

Oh, they should absolutely be excluded. I'm just saying it should be done at the federal level. You'd see Texas, Missouri, and a bunch of other states removing Biden if the ruling didn't come down as it did.

Bullshit. Colorado already decides which candidates can or can't run un their state. They did in 2012 when they disqualified a presidential candidate. The case went to court, and justice Gorsuch wrote the opinion that yes of course Colorado has that right.

I'm not aware of that... who did they disqualify and for what cause?

Go read the Constitution before you spout nonsense. Each state has always had the right to decide which candidates can or can't run.

Meh, elections are already a shit-show. The popular vote is disregarded, and the candidate with fewer votes can win...this is a undemocratic. Democracy is fundamentally broken already.

I agree with you in general.

But it's not a flaw SCOTUS has any business fixing. It needs to be done via Congress, and probably a constitutional amendment.

America's entire federal voting system is...not done federally. Each state is left to decide how it wants to run its elections themselves, with the states drawing electoral boundaries, deciding rules for who's eligible to vote, how the physical act of voting is done, etc. This is an utterly insane way to run a national election. States can set their own rules for state elections, maybe, but federal elections should be consistent nation-wide.

Until Congress fixes this incredibly fundamental flaw in the US electoral system, states have the right to do shit like this whether for good (and hopefully we can all agree that anything that keeps Trump out of office is good) or ill (because you just know Republicans will twist it in states they control).

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