It wasn't just the goblins — is J.K. Rowling doing Holocaust denial now?

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It wasn't just the goblins — is J.K. Rowling doing Holocaust denial now?
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The most famous forms of Holocaust denial and revisionism tend to focus on Jews, casting doubt, for example, on how many were exterminated in the camps. But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial. Maybe someone should tell J.K. Rowling.

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Once I found out that Harry Potter glorified the British class system by having it take place at an elite private school where people less privileged than them are looked down upon and even called names I was already turned off... but once I got to the obviously antisemitic goblins, I was done.

I wish it wasn't so damn popular.

Edit: I realize this article isn't about antisemitism. This is just another example of Rowling's bigotry.

I don't care about HP, but it's just a standard fairy tale. I read the books to my kids. Stories about knights, kings, princesses, super heroes...pretty much any story in which a normal person can fantasize about being someone who has much more power than they do, have been the stock-in-trade for story-tellers forever. Harry Potter lives a terrible life with his abusive relatives until he gets whisked off to a fancy private school where, it turns out, he is pretty special. Does it glorify the British class system? Sure, in some ways. But, it also undermines it insofar as Harry's friends are mostly from the lower classes, and the villains are mostly "old money" and those who are obsessed with genetic purity. Also, the entrenched authorities like the Ministry of Magic are shown in a rather poor light, with their dementors, cruel bureaucrats, and insanity-inducing prisons. Hermione is meant to symbolize someone who got to Hogwart's based on ability, not birth or connections. So, the story is at least partially about the transformation of the old structures of power from being based on money and birth to being based on ability. It shows British power structures in transition, I would say. What do you think?

That may very well be so. I did not get that impression from the first book, but, as I said, it was the only book I read and maybe it was clarified in the sequels.

By the way, my father was a similarly privileged to go to a prestigious British school on scholarship despite coming from a poor background and had nothing but bad things to say about it, so that does color my judgment a little.

That explains it. Each book gets progressively darker. The first book was written for 11 year olds, if I recall correctly. It doesn't really get into politics. The subsequent books expose the corruption of the class system and the horrifying complicity of the bureaucracy.

And at the end the main characters shut up and perpetuate the system

I love liberals

I don't understand why you are criticizing liberals here. Would you prefer illiberalism? Or are you an armchair revolutionary?

Hogwarts is not elite. Anyone can enrol if they have magical ability. It's addressed in a later book that attendance is not mandatory but nearly every witch and wizard in Britain is educated there. It's just a school that doesn't even have an admittance exam.

if they have magical ability

That's exactly what makes it elite. There's automatically a class system.

I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean, do you want non magical people to attend a magical school?

The fact that magic is only for some, that's the elitist part. There are some people that are inherently better than others

They could just fail every class for 8 years and be passed to the next anyway.

No different then public school system st the end of the day.

I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean, do you want non magical people to attend a magical school?

That's the thing that makes everyone defending this shit so sus. Harry Potter has so. many. layers. of terrible shit in it. Maybe people didn't realize it when they were reading the books as a child because they were young and naive, but as an adult you should be able to recognize shit like the only Asian character being named "Cho Chang" and realize you're reading an awful book written by an awful person. The fact that people know about Rowlings bigotry and still read HP to their kids blows my mind. If we all just agreed she was a shitty person and stopped passing her garbage writing along, she'd be forgotten in a generation.

There's a city in China called Chongqing, I'm guessing that's racist too?

If you're grasping at straws trying to defend a well known bigot who is publicly proud of her bigotry, it's time to re-evaluate your life.

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