Good IEM-s don't really need ANC. If the silicone tip doesn't isolate enough you can use foam tips that basically function like hearing protection earplugs.
No battery is even better than replaceable battery.
Wired IEM-s never get obsolete. At worst you'll need to replace the silicone tips from time to time, or the cable and today even 20€ Chinese IEM-s have replaceable cables. With good care wired IEM-s can last decades.
If you don't think you need ANC you've never experienced good ANC, even the best passive noise isolation won't quiet down the sound of a full cafeteria or bus.
No wired iems will never be obsolete, but I will just be leaving them at my desk where the downsides over wireless are less.
I've used passive noise isolation earbuds that work better than any ANC. This one time I took them off after a long flight, only to realize that a toddler was crying behind me.
I think it would be fair to doubt your point, could you share which earbuds you were using and how you were using them? I think the disagreement here will also stem from the fact that IEMs + playing music is pretty great "active noise cancellation" in itself.
When I listen to a podcast on my IEMs I hear quite a lot of the outside world, when I do the same with ANC headphones on I hear much less.
Not the same guy, but I don't have trouble blocking outside noise with Etymotic ER3SE earbuds. They do go insanely deep into my ear though.
Mine also get quite buried, like earplugs. And they're still comfortable.
And damn, yours must be really nice at that price!
I got them on sale for around $110. They might be expensive for wired earbuds, but still cheaper than nice wireless earbuds, including the Fairbuds this post is about. Also, the cables are replaceable in case they ever get damaged.
Oh, that sounds fantastic!
Fair enough. I've updated my original answer.
Yeah, idk why people are downvoting you so hard. There are some seriously good passive noise cancellation buds out there. Kind of insane when you actually try them.
ANC makes the baby crying more pronounced & that’s more annoying than the rumble of a bus. +1 to passive noise cancelation on silicone tips. A bit more in general gets thru, but the it isn’t amplifying voices & other loud sounds. Brains are pretty good at turning out the rabble of a cafeteria or transportation.
So you basically said there's no need for fair wired headphones because cheap 20€ chinese wired ones perfectly serve that market?
Even better that fairphone builds true wireless earbuds with all those fair features, because there is no alternative there already.
That's a strawman and you know it. OP basically said that we want 3.5mm jacks.
On true wireless earbuds? How?
No, no. We want 3.5mm jacks for wired earphones. Whether there is a fairphone version of wired earphones or not is irrelevant.
The whole thread is about earbuds?! Where do jacks on phones come in all of a sudden?
Then why are you commenting on this "irrelevant" sub-thread?
The post is about true wireless earbuds
The comment is about how lemmy makes it about jacks and wired earphones for no reason
The counter point is that wired earphones last decades
I said that the market for them is already satisfied, while those are the first fair true wireless ones, which is great
Now how is it irrelevant? I seriously don't understand what the problem is, and I also don't know what kind of strawman I apparently made
Counterpoints:
If you don't think you need ANC you've never experienced good ANC, even the best passive noise isolation won't quiet down the sound of a full cafeteria or bus.
No wired iems will never be obsolete, but I will just be leaving them at my desk where the downsides over wireless are less.
I've used passive noise isolation earbuds that work better than any ANC. This one time I took them off after a long flight, only to realize that a toddler was crying behind me.
Edit: lol at the downvotes! https://maxrockearbuds.com/
I think it would be fair to doubt your point, could you share which earbuds you were using and how you were using them? I think the disagreement here will also stem from the fact that IEMs + playing music is pretty great "active noise cancellation" in itself.
When I listen to a podcast on my IEMs I hear quite a lot of the outside world, when I do the same with ANC headphones on I hear much less.
Not the same guy, but I don't have trouble blocking outside noise with Etymotic ER3SE earbuds. They do go insanely deep into my ear though.
Mine also get quite buried, like earplugs. And they're still comfortable.
And damn, yours must be really nice at that price!
I got them on sale for around $110. They might be expensive for wired earbuds, but still cheaper than nice wireless earbuds, including the Fairbuds this post is about. Also, the cables are replaceable in case they ever get damaged.
Oh, that sounds fantastic!
Fair enough. I've updated my original answer.
Yeah, idk why people are downvoting you so hard. There are some seriously good passive noise cancellation buds out there. Kind of insane when you actually try them.
ANC makes the baby crying more pronounced & that’s more annoying than the rumble of a bus. +1 to passive noise cancelation on silicone tips. A bit more in general gets thru, but the it isn’t amplifying voices & other loud sounds. Brains are pretty good at turning out the rabble of a cafeteria or transportation.
So you basically said there's no need for fair wired headphones because cheap 20€ chinese wired ones perfectly serve that market?
Even better that fairphone builds true wireless earbuds with all those fair features, because there is no alternative there already.
That's a strawman and you know it. OP basically said that we want 3.5mm jacks.
On true wireless earbuds? How?
No, no. We want 3.5mm jacks for wired earphones. Whether there is a fairphone version of wired earphones or not is irrelevant.
The whole thread is about earbuds?! Where do jacks on phones come in all of a sudden?
Then why are you commenting on this "irrelevant" sub-thread?
The post is about true wireless earbuds The comment is about how lemmy makes it about jacks and wired earphones for no reason The counter point is that wired earphones last decades I said that the market for them is already satisfied, while those are the first fair true wireless ones, which is great
Now how is it irrelevant? I seriously don't understand what the problem is, and I also don't know what kind of strawman I apparently made