The Fallout Bible: a collection of lore documents compiled for use in the development of the original (cancelled) Fallout 3
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I'd never seen this before, and its fun to get an inside look into the early lore. They talk about playing pen and paper Fallout to test new perks, I wish I could go back in time and join those games.
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I was laughing at all the YouTube videos last month "this is why the fallout show will suck!". People are such haters. It's not like the fallout games were known for their Oscar winning dialogue and plot, so as soon as I saw that the show has the exact same aesthetic I knew they could pull it off. I liked the first episode i saw.
Glad I didn't watch with my kids though lol that sex scene came out of nowhere, but the gore I was happy about. Cause the games are pretty damn gory.
Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas are well known for high quality dialogue and plot. The Bethesda games on the other hand...
Fallout 1 has a high quality plot? That's new.
Nobody remembers fallout 1 and 2. If it wasn't for Bethesda, fallout would be a dead series nobody remembers. The only reason fallout is relevant and even has a tv is because of Bethesda buying it. It's their series now, and their interpretation of it is the only one that matters.
Plenty of people remember and adore the first two games, and even tactics. Bethesda's version of Fallout is great, and so are the originals. Get over yourself.
Like I mentioned to someone else, fallout 1 and 2 sold 750k copies combined.
Fallout 3, nv and 4 sold 50 million copies combined.
I'm responding to people shitting on Bethesda's version of fallout and wishing the show was more like the first two games, and I'm responding with "most people don't know the first two games, Bethesda fallout is The mainstream". Am I wrong?
Yeah.
I agree that Bethesda has done a fine job with it, but I don't agree that we should pretend that none of the other games ever existed just so you don't feel left out.
To give you something else to think about for Fallout 1, 2, and tactics, there were also not very many people who could afford computers at the time of their releases.
I wouldn’t attribute the games being any less good than the newer games just because they didn’t sell as much as those newer games.
Fallout 3 and New Vegas was on PC, Xbox 360, and PS3. That’s also around the time the tech became much more available to the broader audiences. More people than ever had gaming consoles, and gaming PCs.
Fallout New Vegas has a lot of the charm of the older games, especially the wackiness that many love. Fallout 3 was (in my opinion) a much more focused game, in that it focused on the main story and kept most of the wackiness to a minimum compared to the originals and New Vegas.
I see what you’re saying, but if the originals did not exist, neither would the newer games. We shouldn’t shit on the classics, because without those classics, we wouldn’t have the show to even begin with.
I don't see how those games being less remembered discredits the fact they had solid writing and plot.
Popularity contest does not correlate with high quality.
I'm responding to people complaining that the show is more like bathesda fallout than the first 2 games. I'm explaining why. Because popularity and mainstream appeal. I'm sorry you don't like facts
Hmmmm. I'm not even complaining about that. Considering you can't roleplay in a TV show, guess the writing can have potential.
Just trying to refute your points about the writing of the games. I understand why the TV show would be based on something that has mainstream appeal. That makes a lot of sense.
By the looks of this thread, we're a lot of nobodys.
PC gamers who are shitting all over Bethesda and the tv show, you're not the target audience cause you're unpleasable. I've met tons of people who've played fallout 3, nv and 4. But rarely meet anyone who has played 1 and 2, and I'm talking about the real world not your PC gamer forums
Well New Vegas was amazing, and not written by Bethesda. 3 and 4 on the other hand were pretty weak regardless of how well they sold.
I don't know what you're up to, but I ain't shitting on the Bethesda games, that's on you.
Put it down to age. I'm sure not a lot of people who jumped in at Fallout 4 bothered to go all the way back to the beginning, but I gotta say, nothing says "PC gamer forum" like lumping every age group together and calling something dead just because you didn't dig it.
Oof, the further I read, the worse you sound.
PS, I'm a console gamer who was excited for 3 & 4 BECAUSE of the first two games, and I'm really enjoying the show. Which kind of throws your stereotypes and generalizations out the window. So please stop.
Joke's on you, New Vegas wasn't written by Bethesda and go figure, it's the best game in the series (alongside 1 and 2).
That's like saying the Empire strikes back isn't a star wars movie because it wasn't written by George Lucas
Pre bathesda- 750k copies of fallout 1 and 2 combined sold.
Post bathesda- 50 million copies of fallout 3,nv, and 4 combined sold.
I mean if those numbers don't say it for you, I don't know what will.
750,000 = 0? Or did 750,000 people experience memory loss? Lmao
750k is smaller than 50 million. Keep up
Yes, very good. But you said "nobody" remembers those games. 750,000 people is not nearly "nobody"
Compared to 50 million?
750,000 is closer to 0 than 50,000,000, yes.
But 50,000,000 is less than 480,000,000, which is the lifetime sales of the Pokemon games, so I guess nobody remembers the Bethesda Fallout games either. Because 50,000,000 is closer to 0 than it is to 480,000,000, so I guess that means it's nobody.
Yeah, sex scene and sex jokes was a bit surprising, compared to how tame Bethesda games are on stuff like that. Well, at least the unmodded ones.
But didn't scare me away after first episode either. Looks promising.
I'm actually happy to hear that. I was afraid it would take too much inspiration from the Bethesda games, but sounds like maybe they looked more at Fallout 1 and 2, which would be just what I hoped they would.
I'm excited to give it a chance now.
The Ghoul definitely took the Bloody Mess perk! 😂
Mine are teenagers, and that sex scene made me a little nervous at first, but I'm glad they didn't make it very graphic.
Gore in games always bothers me less, it feels more cartoony. I'm not asking for them to take it out, but I would like a "for babies" mode that blurs it. I felt a little sick to my stomach at a few points.
I didn't realize there would be sex scenes in it. Glad to know before I started watching. I miss the days when it was pretty safe to watch anything. I wish all these producers would realize that some people have families and that we don't need sex scenes and nudity in everything.
The only nudity is a male butt, but there is no question that they are having sex. I was comfortable with my 15&16yo teenagers watching it, but might be awkward with middle schoolers.
having sex in the communial wedding dress too
At least within that context, the scene made sense.