Unequipped and outgunned, Ukrainian military often can’t evacuate its wounded

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Unequipped and outgunned, Ukrainian military often can’t evacuate its wounded
kyivindependent.com

The main reason for the absence of medical evacuation is simple and gruesome: The fighting is just too intense.

It can take a day or even two for soldiers to get in and out of the fiercest fighting spots – killing any hopes of medics coming to save the wounded.

Left alone at the positions, the soldiers often have to pull out their comrades on their own under heavy shelling, sometimes walking five to seven kilometers to the nearest evacuation points, where vehicles take them to makeshift hospitals.

When soldiers carry their wounded out, the group is easy to spot – and it immediately becomes easy prey to Russian first-person view (FPV) drones and artillery.

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Russian propaganda and kompromat is working as intended. Putin has proven that the cohesion of western democratic states can be broken with almost no effort, as a result we will see a completely unprecedented rise in territory grabbing and fascist dictatorships over the next 20 years.

This isn't propaganda. It's reality.

Ukraine cannot win without foreign troops on the ground. They never had the capability.

I think this point was not to claim this article is propaganda, but rather that Russia and other dictatorships can continue to invade other countries with minor consequences because they can spin whatever narrative they need and sow division in the worlds political powers by spreading lies and mistruths on fringe news channels and social media.

invade other countries with minor consequences because they cab spin whatever narrative they need and sow division

Where have I seen this before...

Basically every world power is a reactionary right-wing oligarchy with either a bourgeoisie "democracy" or straight up dictatorship. So yeah you and we see it all the time.

This article is not propaganda, yes. I am saying the previous two years of subversive efforts by Putin have successfully seized up the political war support machine that would have otherwise made Russia's offensive a lost cause.

You do realize the Democrats are still in power right? You cannot blame it on Republicans yet.

You do realise that it's a republican house, right? And that they're the ones holding up aid, right?

That means there's nothing the democrats can do :(

No they are not. Biden is holding up aid.

Or can he only bypass congress and do secret arms deals for israel?

Hold on, for the record Republicans most certainly are holding up aid to Ukraine.

Your first link errors out

Re: the second link, do you know if we're selling arms to Ukraine, or giving it to them?

Fixed the first link.

Republicans most certainly are holding up aid to Ukraine.

Irrelevant. Biden is abusing his presidential powers to enable literal Genocide. He could easily abuse his powers in the same way to get weapons to Ukraine

Joe Biden Could Send Millions Of Artillery Shells To Ukraine, For Free, Tomorrow. And It’s Perfectly Legal.

If you say "Biden doesn't want to break the rules like Trump" that's one thing, but that excuse doesn't hold up because he already does it for israel.

So let me get this straight, instead of blaming people who are actively acting against something, you are focusing instead on someone who isn't abusing a loophole?

That doesn't set the stage up for a very reasonable conversation, and suggests that you're wanting to discuss Israel/Gaza moreso than Ukraine, so I don't see a need to engage in conversation.

So let me get this straight, instead of blaming the person in power you blame random peons and deflect from it even though you have just been presented with evidence that this person can clearly do so

Random peons being the ones elected to pass policy and control the budget, right?

And the president only being able to help if he blatantly abused a loophole, right?

If that's the case, yeah you've got it right. I do think that the contingent of folks who are acting against providing aid are more responsible than the person who isn't abusing a loophole to help.

the person who isn’t abusing a loophole to help.

You have just been linked evidence that Biden is abusing the loopholes. For israel. So that entire argument goes out of the window.

Genocide Joe does abuse his presidential powers. He does it for israel when Republicans are blocking their weapons. He does not do it for Ukraine.

Genocide Joe does abuse his presidential powers. He does it for israel /when Republicans are blocking their weapons. He does not do it for Ukraine. /

Can we talk about the conditional you put on your statement here?

Are you just going to pretend that doesn't exist?

Oh no the Republicans are most definitely trying to screw over Ukraine. The claim is that Russian propaganda, aka only the Republican party is responsible here. In reality both sides are responsible for. Democrats have the power to do something about it if they wanted. But it is looking more and more like the West using Ukrainians as cannon fodder for a few years against Russia and then abandoning them was the plan all along.

Boris Johnson Pressured Zelenskyy to Ditch Peace Talks With Russia: Ukrainian Paper

"The British government has become an obstacle to peace in Ukraine," said the Stop the War Coalition. "The conflict there is developing into a proxy war between Russia and NATO and it is the Ukrainian people who will suffer the consequences."

Lets see if Ukrainians will join the long list of allies used to fight an enemy and then thrown aside. I'm sure the Kurds will welcome them with open arms.

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