That'd make home charging practical. I want to believe--
Home charging is already practical (overnight); it's the primary means people with electric cars charge them.
Except for people who live in apartments, basement suites, student dorms, etc.
So only people who can afford $1M detached houses and $60k electric vehicles can have personal transportation after 2030 or whatever the cutoff is for ICE vehicles now.
As someone who lives in an apartment who cannot charge their EV at home, charging at public 6.6/12kw and fast chargers is more than enough to keep my battery filled, sure its like 2~5x more expensive than charging at your own home, but it's still like 4x cheaper than what I was paying in gas per month comparatively.
Yeah it can be done for some. Probably wouldn't work for myself though as I have a 150km commute to work each day so probably would have to sit and recharge at a public station every second day if not more. So 2 hours of commuting turns into 2.5+ hours.
Yea, its still unfeasible for many people with long drives to work or school- or infrastructure around them which isn't fast enough or built at all.
The newest and best offers for sale nowadays could probably suit you- 300mi/480km~ is pretty common nowadays and the Ioniq 5/Ev6 charge back up to near full in about 30~ mins. But those cars are out of reach for anyone out of middle income/higher middle income.
Right (and I knew as soon as I hit reply I should’ve phrased it better). What I mean is home charging becomes more attractive and useful. If you can charge in 10 min at a house it lessens the need for dedicated fueling stations. If we can quickly charge at (someone’s) home we don’t need gas stations.
Well, unless you want to go on long distance trips or wont be home for multiple days on end.
I wonder if a Mad Max sequel will focus on solar powered combat cars that struggle to cross vast distances under radioactive clouds…
If they could do it off of regular 120/240v they should just add charging plugs to all street lamps and charge electric vehicles a tax for power usage wether it's public or private based off milage which also covers wear and tear on roads like the gasoline taxes do.
I'd be down for that. I'm sure it'd be called socialism though and we'd be stuck with the traditional gatekeepers. 🙄
I'm really sad that the gatekeepers go around unplugging electric cars, instead of trying to cut the ccharging cables while charging.
Cause that would very quickly be come a self correcting problem
At my place of work we've got one charging station. There's a guy who parks his truck there every morning (comes in way early for some reason). He could park anywhere, even more convenient spaces, but always chooses that spot...So if you want to charge, good luck.
He literally sacrifices his morning, to come in super early, just to park his truck in the one charging station to fuck over someone with an EV.
That is the tiniest dick energy I've ever seen, lol.
If we're giving him the benefit of the doubt, he comes in early because he can't wait to get out of his house to escape his failing marriage and likes that spot because the sun is obstructed just so that his truck stays shadier than it would otherwise.
This would seem reasonable if it wasn't a parking garage. I hate to say it, but knowing him as I do I would swear on religious literature that it's on purpose.
This is why EVs remain a poor choice for people who drive long distances regularly.
True, though I'll maintain most people aren't those people, even though they might feel like they are
Depends on what car you have, and whether the area you drive through has good Level 3 chargers. My I5 charges so fast, and we rarely go anywhere that doesn't have L3 chargers on the way, so charging isn't really an inconvenience.
That's really nice, and we'll get there some day for everyone.
No it wouldn't. Battery tech isn't the limitation on home charging speed at all. It's the power available at your house that limits charging speed.
This tech would only help cars charge faster at dedicated charging stations.
I dont think there's a single dedicated charging station in the world that supports that speed of charging either.
Well duh the vehicle and battery doesn't exist yet, so of course their aren't any chargers! The charging standards will have to be developed concurrently with the vehicle and deployed slowly over years.
Most countries in the world's entire electrical grid wouldn't be able to handle a full ev-ification of the nation's cars as is- let alone replacing every single one of those cars with chargers that suck enough energy to charge 3~ of the normal modern ev's range (250mi~) in 10 minutes (2x faster than the fastest modern evs) at once.
It would be taking a problem we already don't have infrastructure to solve yet- and tripling it.
It doesn't increase the total amount of energy needed vs regular evs. It might lead to higher power drain at certain popular charging times though. It also gives us the technology to help with that in the form of better energy storage. It sounds like they have improved energy density of batteries considerably to fit that range into an EV. That's something we will need in the energy grid going forward.
It's also possible to restrict charging rate during peak times to reduce load on the grid. There are other tricks that are possible as well including using connected vehicles not in use as additional energy storage for the grid.
If you can get enough electricity for EVs in the first place then this technology would actually be helpful overall I think.
And increasing the power available to every house, lamp post and car park is a big problem. It requires more investment than most utility companies are willing/able to make
Well that sucks.
Not really home charging times aren't really a problem. You do don't refuel a fossil fuel car at home.
The perception for me and maybe others is, I'll drive somewhere and not be able to charge my vehicle unless I'm at home. That said, if a battery can last fricken 700 miles it's a moot concern.
More and more places with electric car charging are available. Eventually we will replace gas stations with them. This strikes me as being far from reality and narrow minded at the same time. Maybe it's different where you live?
Probably. I live in the South where trucks are more common than sense.
That'd make home charging practical. I want to believe--
Home charging is already practical (overnight); it's the primary means people with electric cars charge them.
Except for people who live in apartments, basement suites, student dorms, etc.
So only people who can afford $1M detached houses and $60k electric vehicles can have personal transportation after 2030 or whatever the cutoff is for ICE vehicles now.
As someone who lives in an apartment who cannot charge their EV at home, charging at public 6.6/12kw and fast chargers is more than enough to keep my battery filled, sure its like 2~5x more expensive than charging at your own home, but it's still like 4x cheaper than what I was paying in gas per month comparatively.
Yeah it can be done for some. Probably wouldn't work for myself though as I have a 150km commute to work each day so probably would have to sit and recharge at a public station every second day if not more. So 2 hours of commuting turns into 2.5+ hours.
Yea, its still unfeasible for many people with long drives to work or school- or infrastructure around them which isn't fast enough or built at all.
The newest and best offers for sale nowadays could probably suit you- 300mi/480km~ is pretty common nowadays and the Ioniq 5/Ev6 charge back up to near full in about 30~ mins. But those cars are out of reach for anyone out of middle income/higher middle income.
Right (and I knew as soon as I hit reply I should’ve phrased it better). What I mean is home charging becomes more attractive and useful. If you can charge in 10 min at a house it lessens the need for dedicated fueling stations. If we can quickly charge at (someone’s) home we don’t need gas stations.
Well, unless you want to go on long distance trips or wont be home for multiple days on end.
I wonder if a Mad Max sequel will focus on solar powered combat cars that struggle to cross vast distances under radioactive clouds…
If they could do it off of regular 120/240v they should just add charging plugs to all street lamps and charge electric vehicles a tax for power usage wether it's public or private based off milage which also covers wear and tear on roads like the gasoline taxes do.
I'd be down for that. I'm sure it'd be called socialism though and we'd be stuck with the traditional gatekeepers. 🙄
I'm really sad that the gatekeepers go around unplugging electric cars, instead of trying to cut the ccharging cables while charging.
Cause that would very quickly be come a self correcting problem
At my place of work we've got one charging station. There's a guy who parks his truck there every morning (comes in way early for some reason). He could park anywhere, even more convenient spaces, but always chooses that spot...So if you want to charge, good luck.
He literally sacrifices his morning, to come in super early, just to park his truck in the one charging station to fuck over someone with an EV.
That is the tiniest dick energy I've ever seen, lol.
If we're giving him the benefit of the doubt, he comes in early because he can't wait to get out of his house to escape his failing marriage and likes that spot because the sun is obstructed just so that his truck stays shadier than it would otherwise.
This would seem reasonable if it wasn't a parking garage. I hate to say it, but knowing him as I do I would swear on religious literature that it's on purpose.
This is why EVs remain a poor choice for people who drive long distances regularly.
True, though I'll maintain most people aren't those people, even though they might feel like they are
Depends on what car you have, and whether the area you drive through has good Level 3 chargers. My I5 charges so fast, and we rarely go anywhere that doesn't have L3 chargers on the way, so charging isn't really an inconvenience.
That's really nice, and we'll get there some day for everyone.
No it wouldn't. Battery tech isn't the limitation on home charging speed at all. It's the power available at your house that limits charging speed.
This tech would only help cars charge faster at dedicated charging stations.
I dont think there's a single dedicated charging station in the world that supports that speed of charging either.
Well duh the vehicle and battery doesn't exist yet, so of course their aren't any chargers! The charging standards will have to be developed concurrently with the vehicle and deployed slowly over years.
Most countries in the world's entire electrical grid wouldn't be able to handle a full ev-ification of the nation's cars as is- let alone replacing every single one of those cars with chargers that suck enough energy to charge 3~ of the normal modern ev's range (250mi~) in 10 minutes (2x faster than the fastest modern evs) at once.
It would be taking a problem we already don't have infrastructure to solve yet- and tripling it.
It doesn't increase the total amount of energy needed vs regular evs. It might lead to higher power drain at certain popular charging times though. It also gives us the technology to help with that in the form of better energy storage. It sounds like they have improved energy density of batteries considerably to fit that range into an EV. That's something we will need in the energy grid going forward.
It's also possible to restrict charging rate during peak times to reduce load on the grid. There are other tricks that are possible as well including using connected vehicles not in use as additional energy storage for the grid.
If you can get enough electricity for EVs in the first place then this technology would actually be helpful overall I think.
And increasing the power available to every house, lamp post and car park is a big problem. It requires more investment than most utility companies are willing/able to make
Well that sucks.
Not really home charging times aren't really a problem. You do don't refuel a fossil fuel car at home.
The perception for me and maybe others is, I'll drive somewhere and not be able to charge my vehicle unless I'm at home. That said, if a battery can last fricken 700 miles it's a moot concern.
More and more places with electric car charging are available. Eventually we will replace gas stations with them. This strikes me as being far from reality and narrow minded at the same time. Maybe it's different where you live?
Probably. I live in the South where trucks are more common than sense.