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You don't artificially inseminate them with your penis?

true, but as the article explains, in some places, the legal definition of bestiality does not require a penis to be involved, nor does it provide exceptions for artificial insemination of farm animals.

the 'bestiality problem' is not (thankfully) that people are out there having sex with cows in droves, but that, in their relentless pursuit of profit, the meat/dairy industries are probably violating the law, and definitely violating the livestock, on a massive scale.

But it seems obvious that that's not what the law is trying to outlaw and since everyone gets that it doesn't seem like a huge deal.

You do, however, fist them up to your elbow

That's not how artificial insemination is done. That's how you deal with digestive or reproductive issues and is very similar to how it is done in human patients. In cows you can go in right up to your shoulder.

You said, "elbow". That is incorrect. The palpating hands is used to open the vulva and guide the catheter past the urethra. It is inserted to the wrist. You can clearly see that in the photos in the publication you linked.

well glad to know they are only fisting them to the wrist then. why are you defending that, again?

Do you know why no one takes you seriously? It's because you lie and exaggerate and over dramatize in order to try to bully everyone into doing what you want. Extremists, ALL extremists, are the same. You all think that you're somehow superior to the people you don't agree with and that that superiority justifies anything that you do or say to them in order to bully them into compliance with your extremist beliefs. This pathological self-absolution is the hallmark of all extremists: vegan extremists, religious extremists, racial extremists, anti-choise extremists, anti-LGBTQ extremists...you're all the same and everyone can see that.

The thing that you don't understand is that I (and the vast majority of people) don't give the first fuck what a self-absolving extremist with a pathologically misguided sense of absolute moral supremacy thinks.

You're not here for a conversation. You're here for ragesturbation. You people get off on rage. Sorry...I'm laughing at you, not raging.

EDIT: An vegan extremist apologist takes a run at me down in this thread. They misquote, misrepresent, hurl childish insults, and use an ineffective series of strawman arguments. They're not trying to have a conversation. They had no intention of having a conversation. They're trying to bully me into being quiet. It didn't work. Take time to read the thread. It's good for a laugh.

Not OP. I think it's funny how you're accusing them of "bullying" when their comments aren't aggressive at all, just pointing out a practice they disagree with. But somehow your multi-paragraph, raging, sorry, uh... "laughing" comment filled with direct insults and patronizing dismissal, should NOT be considered "bullying."

Like, I don't buy into the idea that anyone can bully someone else in an anonymous Internet forum, outside of doxxing or repeated harassment. But looking at this, one of you is clearly much more aggressive and bothered than the other here.

Using exaggerated, inaccurate, and sexually violent language, "fisting up to the elbow", and accusing anyone who doesn't agree with them of supporting the exaggeration IS bullying.  It's attempting to bludgeon anyone who doesn't agree with their self-absolving moral superiority into submission.

It's laughable.

You compared religious extremists to vegans. YOU are laughable.

I compared one type of extremist to other types of extremists. They are the same in that they all have a pathological belief that they are superior and that the self-absolution that comes with that pathological belief justified anything they do to people they feel are inferior.

The pathology and wrong thought are the same.

One is imaginary, the other has scientific fact. No similarities there, and the rest is you imagining how people think.

Get help with your hateful delusions.

To be honest, I'm not sure which group of extremists you are an apologist for.

I mean, we all know that there are religious extremists so I assume you're trying to deny the existence of vegan extremists who harass and attempt to intimidate business owners into complying with their demands and harass and intimidate their patrons.

An extremist is an extremist. They all believed that they are superior and they all believe that that superiority justifies anything that they do to people who don't agree with them.

Same same.

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