Since you seem to lack the intelligence needed, I’ll enlighten you! It’s Trump! He will win because Democrats would rather lose than run a viable centrist candidate.
But that’s weird, I could have sworn all you blue MAGAts promised the exact same thing in 2019. Our democracy is at stake, we must vote Blue no matter who to stop fascism.
That’s weird, I could have sworn the same thing happened in 2008 and 2012 as well. I had so much {{{hope}}} but all that happened was a retail debt fueled spending spree and no healthcare. Oh right, the banking industry must have been punished for that, surely? They didn’t just shift the bubble to permanent debt like student loan backed securities and securities fraud?
Damn they said that in 1992 and we got Glass-Steagall repealed. But look we ran a federal surplus, hooray all is well!
It’s so strange, I keep holding my nose and voting blue no matter who but the US keeps getting more right wing and capitalists keep consolidating power.
Can you explain why this time will be totally different? After all, according to your logic, if a vote for not-Biden is a vote for Trump just like you say, then a vote for Biden must be a vote for Trump as well?
I mean, we voted blue so there should be plenty of examples of Democrats taking material action to reject fascism and the wholesale plunder of the working class by capitalists, right?
All i have to say is 'project 2025' is why it will be different. That should be pretty simple.
But continue if you must.
All i have to say is ‘project 2025’ is why it will be different.
PNAC
The K-Street Project
The Republican Revolution
Whatever swill Phyllis Schafly was pushing 40 years ago.
There's always an ingenious conservative think tank plan to forge an impenetrable bubble around Washington DC for the next 60 years. It rarely survives contact with the first Congressional cycle unless its another big tax cut.
If it's so much more dangerous this time around why wouldn't they offer up multiple qualified candidates instead of putting all their eggs in one basket? It seems like either you're wrong or they are.
When a fascist says who they are, you should believe them.
But go ahead and keep your head in the ground.
I have no doubt they fully intend to enact their vision of world domination, my point and the other person above is that democrats entire strategy is to do things they want convienient for them while they improve their lives at the expense of ours while offering up breadcrumbs and espouting that they aren't the worst option. They could legislate changes for a fair election or ranked choice voting, but they don't want change and they don't care about us; they treat this like a game of good oligarch bad oligarch.
If we want to get out of this rut we need to change course, and by design we will always be on the verge of the next project 2025. If you want to analogize my actions to keeping my head in the ground I would offer that you are on merry-go-round desperately trying to steer for the right course without realizing you have no agency while on the ride.
Bottom line Plastic_Ramses is I'm tired of this shit, and I want to get off this stupid ride.
Enabling a fascist will not allow you to get off the ride.
Other than let's keep doing the same thing I'm open to your suggestions.
Im sure as shit not going to choose the "lets get the fascist into power", only a complete dumbass would do that.
But who decided that's the only choice?
Its not the only choice, youve just decided youre going home and youre trying to take the ball.
So by voting for a candidate other than Biden or Trump I'm taking my ball and going home?
"There arent any leftists candidates for president. I know what will help! I'll elect a fascist!"
This is you, you sound like this.
You are being hyperbolic, you told me that I have options, but in reality I either vote for Biden or if I choose not to vote for Biden then I'm giving away my vote to facists (Trump), that's not democracy it's extortion.
I didn't vote for the fascists, and I didn't get a choice in their opponents so don't try and blame me because the Democratic Party doesn't want candidates that aren't going to support their business interests. If they had ranked choice voting they could pull this crap, but they don't and they won't so stop acting like I'm responsible.
It’s Trump! He will win because Democrats would rather lose than run a viable centrist candidate.
They hated him, because he spoke the truth.
Dems are going to brick wall by running the most insufferable assholes the party has seen since Nixon flipped the deep south. Republicans are going to win entirely due to depressed turnout. And we'll get an earful about how Bernie Sanders screwed us all again, right into the 2026 election cycle.
We got the most left wing president since 1968 and you are over here saying "they just keep getting worse!"
It's a war not a battle. Biden has moved left because he saw the protests in 2020 and how much support Bernie got. He got called out on student debt forgiveness and low and behold he got billions of dollars forgiven even after the supreme Court ruled to block him.
The man listens to the people.
But please, bring the criminal back into office so he can pardon himself and all his fellow criminals. So he can write netanyahu a blank check. Hang Ukraine out to dry! They don't matter! The Palestinians are being killed!, and honestly what's the worst that could happen? Jan 6 will never come back for round 2!
Since you seem to lack the intelligence needed, I’ll enlighten you! It’s Trump! He will win because Democrats would rather lose than run a viable centrist candidate.
But that’s weird, I could have sworn all you blue MAGAts promised the exact same thing in 2019. Our democracy is at stake, we must vote Blue no matter who to stop fascism.
That’s weird, I could have sworn the same thing happened in 2008 and 2012 as well. I had so much {{{hope}}} but all that happened was a retail debt fueled spending spree and no healthcare. Oh right, the banking industry must have been punished for that, surely? They didn’t just shift the bubble to permanent debt like student loan backed securities and securities fraud?
Damn they said that in 1992 and we got Glass-Steagall repealed. But look we ran a federal surplus, hooray all is well!
It’s so strange, I keep holding my nose and voting blue no matter who but the US keeps getting more right wing and capitalists keep consolidating power.
Can you explain why this time will be totally different? After all, according to your logic, if a vote for not-Biden is a vote for Trump just like you say, then a vote for Biden must be a vote for Trump as well?
I mean, we voted blue so there should be plenty of examples of Democrats taking material action to reject fascism and the wholesale plunder of the working class by capitalists, right?
The blues will fight back this time, right? They’ll reverse the line, right?
All i have to say is 'project 2025' is why it will be different. That should be pretty simple.
But continue if you must.
PNAC
The K-Street Project
The Republican Revolution
Whatever swill Phyllis Schafly was pushing 40 years ago.
There's always an ingenious conservative think tank plan to forge an impenetrable bubble around Washington DC for the next 60 years. It rarely survives contact with the first Congressional cycle unless its another big tax cut.
If it's so much more dangerous this time around why wouldn't they offer up multiple qualified candidates instead of putting all their eggs in one basket? It seems like either you're wrong or they are.
When a fascist says who they are, you should believe them.
But go ahead and keep your head in the ground.
I have no doubt they fully intend to enact their vision of world domination, my point and the other person above is that democrats entire strategy is to do things they want convienient for them while they improve their lives at the expense of ours while offering up breadcrumbs and espouting that they aren't the worst option. They could legislate changes for a fair election or ranked choice voting, but they don't want change and they don't care about us; they treat this like a game of good oligarch bad oligarch.
If we want to get out of this rut we need to change course, and by design we will always be on the verge of the next project 2025. If you want to analogize my actions to keeping my head in the ground I would offer that you are on merry-go-round desperately trying to steer for the right course without realizing you have no agency while on the ride.
Bottom line Plastic_Ramses is I'm tired of this shit, and I want to get off this stupid ride.
Enabling a fascist will not allow you to get off the ride.
Other than let's keep doing the same thing I'm open to your suggestions.
Im sure as shit not going to choose the "lets get the fascist into power", only a complete dumbass would do that.
But who decided that's the only choice?
Its not the only choice, youve just decided youre going home and youre trying to take the ball.
So by voting for a candidate other than Biden or Trump I'm taking my ball and going home?
"There arent any leftists candidates for president. I know what will help! I'll elect a fascist!"
This is you, you sound like this.
You are being hyperbolic, you told me that I have options, but in reality I either vote for Biden or if I choose not to vote for Biden then I'm giving away my vote to facists (Trump), that's not democracy it's extortion.
I didn't vote for the fascists, and I didn't get a choice in their opponents so don't try and blame me because the Democratic Party doesn't want candidates that aren't going to support their business interests. If they had ranked choice voting they could pull this crap, but they don't and they won't so stop acting like I'm responsible.
They hated him, because he spoke the truth.
Dems are going to brick wall by running the most insufferable assholes the party has seen since Nixon flipped the deep south. Republicans are going to win entirely due to depressed turnout. And we'll get an earful about how Bernie Sanders screwed us all again, right into the 2026 election cycle.
We got the most left wing president since 1968 and you are over here saying "they just keep getting worse!"
It's a war not a battle. Biden has moved left because he saw the protests in 2020 and how much support Bernie got. He got called out on student debt forgiveness and low and behold he got billions of dollars forgiven even after the supreme Court ruled to block him.
The man listens to the people.
But please, bring the criminal back into office so he can pardon himself and all his fellow criminals. So he can write netanyahu a blank check. Hang Ukraine out to dry! They don't matter! The Palestinians are being killed!, and honestly what's the worst that could happen? Jan 6 will never come back for round 2!
That's what you sound like.