Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

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Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"
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Please, remember to vote on the European elections! We do need the EU to keep taking actions like this

As an American, please vote. Our country is owned by the corporations, at least yours can bring them to heel sometimes.

:`-( I miss voting in the European elections! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺💪

What parties should we vote for to make sure they keep protecting consumers?

Volt wants:

To make digital rights binding. They call for a "Declaration on European Digital Rights and Principles".

Tax revenues from digital technologies where they are generated.

Guarantee net neutrality and reject contradictory laws.

Enact laws against the unethical use of AI.

How does taxing revenue from digital technology where it's generated work?

Can you explain what that means for me.

When you buy something, the seller pays a VAT tax (something about 17% to 23% of your purchase, depending on the country).

If I'm a French company and I sell something to a customer in Finland (we would be both in the EU) taxes would be paid in either France or Finland (it depends on the kind of thing I'm selling and the kind of customer).

If I understand correctly, they want to tax digital services in the place where the work is actually generated. So, in France.

Correct. Amazon for example: everything that is sold via Amazon in Europe is taxed in Ireland. Even if a product which is available on Amazon is produced in France, stored in a French Amazon warehouse and shipped to a French customer. Just because it's possible, they pay the reduced taxes in Ireland for such a deal. That needs to be fixed.

Ahh now I understand the reasoning, and I completely agree.

To be fair, some things are already taxed in the place where work is created, regardless of the company headquarters. E.g. event tickets (VAT is always applied in the country where the event is taking place)

Depends on you country, but the right wing one are usually not the ones that are so pro-regulation.

If north America & Australia's biggest exports start having effect they will be very pro-regulation. Just pro-regulatory-capture.

As left as you can. I'd recommend something less extreme if proto-fascists aka liberals had not lied to us for decades.

Discard the Brownshirts, their collaborators, and the Putin fluffers, and you probably won't have many choices left.

And thieves. Usually also some of the 3 you mentioned, but sometimes just that.

European elections have this advantage that the morons don’t even go to vote nor know what is going on.
It’s the sole reason why is it going so good, obfuscation. Anything outside of the country is too much too grasp for the rightists.

There’s some kind of deep moral to this and I am not sure it is a good one

I don't think that's true at all.

When the UK was in the EU, UKIP was their largest party. For France, Le Pen's National Front party was the largest. And they aren't alone. There's a number of right wing EU parties.

And it's due to get worse, if we bring data into it. Many countries in the EU are swinging to the right. Polling is indicating right wing parties will have a solid majority in the EU parliament this year.

Well it’s true where I live. Those elections are seen as unimportant and not many care and even skip them with a tendency for more… intellectually, EU versed ppl to vote

25% attendance in eu elections vs 45% for country parliament. Most recent elections improved 40 to 65

As I said the moral of this story isn’t pretty

I think those politicians don't really bother going to the parliament and mostly cash the checks in, but it's just a guess

Nah these people love imposing their BS on people.

Well the ones from France don't seem to do much, maybe the other ones are worse