I would strongly recommend against doing this just now. Lemmy isn't ready for your average Reddit user yet.
What'll happen is they'll create an account, see that it's still a bit buggy and a bit empty, then stop using it and tell everyone it's rubbish.
That's how Teslas got their reputation lol
But Elon, and Tesla, are rubbish.
They're cars like any other. Some problems and some good shit. At the end of the day they built a car with a reliable powertrain and made it perform well and they still are the most efficient with range. You can see the thought they put into making it good at being an electric car. They also understand the need of a reliable charging network.
On the flip side they have poor build quality are not very reliable overall. Their reliance on touch screen is a matter of preference. I think they go overboard with it and would prefer more hard control, but atleast the software is intuitive and responsive.
Elon is an asshat, but Tesla, as a car company, I wouldn't call rubbish. Their cars have pros and cons, like any other, and one must admit that they have done quite a lot to move the industry towards electrification.
Elon in engineering is good but he is shit at socialising/ethics
Elon doesn't engineer anything.
he did but doesn't
I love how Tesla recalls still make national headlines. As if other car companies no longer have any.
Other car companies aren't hyping up their cars as the greatest thing since sliced bread and sending out half baked, unreliable features. For other car manufacturers a recall is mundane, there's been thousands recalls for decades before, there'll be plenty mote recalls for as long as we drive cars. Hell, Volkswagen made national headlines when people found out they were cheating on emissions tests.
As for Tesla, we've been on the cusp of autonomous self driving cars for like a decade and a half, always next year, it's almost done, I swear. And our hyped up bulletproof N64 looking truck broke on stage, and our Autopilot (which doesn't actually work how most people imagine how an autopilot works) is totally fine as long as you're closely monitoring it. It doesn't surprise me that regulating bodies are exercising more scrutiny on Tesla than the manufacturers that have been around for a century.
Other car companies aren’t hyping up their cars as the greatest thing since sliced bread and sending out half baked, unreliable features.
You joking? Not to defend Tesla for overhyping their products, but there is a long history of car companies doing exactly this.
For other car manufacturers a recall is mundane, there’s been thousands recalls for decades before, there’ll be plenty mote recalls for as long as we drive cars.
No defense for FSD; that's a fair criticism. Autopilot is commonly cited as one of the better parts of Tesla vehicles though -- often better than similar offerings from competing companies.
Guy in the comments calls out that almost all the recalls are simply software updates that happen without anyone even knowing about them.
I have no doubts that recalls can and will happen with any new automaker but if it's mostly software updates and they're on top of them... better than not fixing them at all.
The website analyzed recall campaign data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration from the last 10 model years and used that data to calculate the number of projected recalls over an expected 30-year lifespan of the cars. Does that mean it considers OTAs (Over The Air updates) as recalls? It does if NHTSA calls it a recall.
Seems highly speculative. But in any case, I'd be more than happy to admit that Tesla models end up getting more recalls than the industry average, if true. My point about Tesla recall sensationalism still stands though!
Or one catches fire and makes national news, vs all the other cars that caught fire in the same timeframe that go unreported because it's not the new thing.
I feel like the issues that were being reported can't be said to be limited to things hobbyists could tolerate...pretty sure one guy showed the steering wheel come off....
I just wanted to write something similar. Still need time for updates and migration.
I would strongly recommend against doing this just now. Lemmy isn't ready for your average Reddit user yet.
What'll happen is they'll create an account, see that it's still a bit buggy and a bit empty, then stop using it and tell everyone it's rubbish.
That's how Teslas got their reputation lol
But Elon, and Tesla, are rubbish.
They're cars like any other. Some problems and some good shit. At the end of the day they built a car with a reliable powertrain and made it perform well and they still are the most efficient with range. You can see the thought they put into making it good at being an electric car. They also understand the need of a reliable charging network.
On the flip side they have poor build quality are not very reliable overall. Their reliance on touch screen is a matter of preference. I think they go overboard with it and would prefer more hard control, but atleast the software is intuitive and responsive.
Elon is an asshat, but Tesla, as a car company, I wouldn't call rubbish. Their cars have pros and cons, like any other, and one must admit that they have done quite a lot to move the industry towards electrification.
Elon in engineering is good but he is shit at socialising/ethics
Elon doesn't engineer anything.
he did but doesn't
I love how Tesla recalls still make national headlines. As if other car companies no longer have any.
Other car companies aren't hyping up their cars as the greatest thing since sliced bread and sending out half baked, unreliable features. For other car manufacturers a recall is mundane, there's been thousands recalls for decades before, there'll be plenty mote recalls for as long as we drive cars. Hell, Volkswagen made national headlines when people found out they were cheating on emissions tests.
As for Tesla, we've been on the cusp of autonomous self driving cars for like a decade and a half, always next year, it's almost done, I swear. And our hyped up bulletproof N64 looking truck broke on stage, and our Autopilot (which doesn't actually work how most people imagine how an autopilot works) is totally fine as long as you're closely monitoring it. It doesn't surprise me that regulating bodies are exercising more scrutiny on Tesla than the manufacturers that have been around for a century.
You joking? Not to defend Tesla for overhyping their products, but there is a long history of car companies doing exactly this.
Mundane Tesla recalls that still made national headlines:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-12/tesla-recalls-1-1-million-cars-in-china-over-braking-defect
(Literally just an update to give more regen braking options.)
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/04/business/tesla-recall-model-y-bolts/index.html
(Loose bolts, very common for most car brands.)
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-recalls-422-us-vehicles-over-suspension-part-2023-04-07/
(Another minor recall on a very small number of vehicles.)
Plus many others.
No defense for FSD; that's a fair criticism. Autopilot is commonly cited as one of the better parts of Tesla vehicles though -- often better than similar offerings from competing companies.
I mean, okay, but...
Guy in the comments calls out that almost all the recalls are simply software updates that happen without anyone even knowing about them.
I have no doubts that recalls can and will happen with any new automaker but if it's mostly software updates and they're on top of them... better than not fixing them at all.
Seems highly speculative. But in any case, I'd be more than happy to admit that Tesla models end up getting more recalls than the industry average, if true. My point about Tesla recall sensationalism still stands though!
Or one catches fire and makes national news, vs all the other cars that caught fire in the same timeframe that go unreported because it's not the new thing.
I feel like the issues that were being reported can't be said to be limited to things hobbyists could tolerate...pretty sure one guy showed the steering wheel come off....
I just wanted to write something similar. Still need time for updates and migration.
We will get there brothers!