Israel has been a pushover? This is the mindset that will keep this insurgency alive forever.
I heard an ex MI6 head cite some numbers on the current state of Hamas. They said that about 60% of the current fighters were orphans from previous wars. There's gonna a whole lot more orphans from this one.
Israel is assured unsafe from another Oct 7 at least for a decade after this war, probably more. People won't stop fighting when they have nothing left to lose. This expectation that these people would do something different than what you would when your families are killed is delusional.
For even more fun, add in the children of Gaza wanting to escalate upward in the same way as Israel did and Iran becoming a nuclear power. If those two things ever combine things can get very ugly.
Are you arguing that Israel should kill children?
And Israel being a pushover means Israel declaring wars that aren't over for over to appease the antisemitic people around them.
Are you arguing that Israel should kill children?
That's not how I read it.
My interpretation is that Israel shouldn't be creating more orphans who will have a lifelong desire for vengeance.
They've decided the solution to that is to kill all the children as well.
I fully agree, but doesn't this argument go the other way as well, when children grow up to Hamas attacking cities since decades?
Of course it does. But I think what matters is the magnitudes and what do every one of those children have to lose. If you want security, you have to move to fewer and fewer children having this experience and to more of them having something to lose. Hamas made this equation markedly worse on Oct 7. Israel's leadership made way worse thereafter.
Israel has been a pushover? This is the mindset that will keep this insurgency alive forever.
I heard an ex MI6 head cite some numbers on the current state of Hamas. They said that about 60% of the current fighters were orphans from previous wars. There's gonna a whole lot more orphans from this one.
Israel is assured unsafe from another Oct 7 at least for a decade after this war, probably more. People won't stop fighting when they have nothing left to lose. This expectation that these people would do something different than what you would when your families are killed is delusional.
For even more fun, add in the children of Gaza wanting to escalate upward in the same way as Israel did and Iran becoming a nuclear power. If those two things ever combine things can get very ugly.
Are you arguing that Israel should kill children?
And Israel being a pushover means Israel declaring wars that aren't over for over to appease the antisemitic people around them.
That's not how I read it.
My interpretation is that Israel shouldn't be creating more orphans who will have a lifelong desire for vengeance.
They've decided the solution to that is to kill all the children as well.
I fully agree, but doesn't this argument go the other way as well, when children grow up to Hamas attacking cities since decades?
Of course it does. But I think what matters is the magnitudes and what do every one of those children have to lose. If you want security, you have to move to fewer and fewer children having this experience and to more of them having something to lose. Hamas made this equation markedly worse on Oct 7. Israel's leadership made way worse thereafter.
So how to break the cycle?
Drag Bibi out of the Knesset by his ankles
How did you get "kill more" from that?