Biden calls for justice after footage released of police killing Black woman

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Biden calls for justice after footage released of police killing Black woman
theguardian.com

Joe Biden has called on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, moments after shocking police video was released showing an Illinois officer fatally shooting Sonya Massey after she called police fearing a home intruder.

In his first public statement since dropping his bid for re-election, Biden said the shooting of Massey, a 36-year-old Black woman, by white Sangamon county sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson, in her home in Springfield, after a dispute over a pot of boiling water, “reminds us that all too often Black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not”.

Biden, who is recovering from Covid at his home in Delaware, said Massey, “a beloved mother, friend, daughter and young Black woman … should be alive today”.

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I can't wait for Americans to stop talking about race like it matters...

Shut the fuck up.

Some people just want racism to stay forever ...

You're not fooling anyone.

Fooling? Pal, when I lived in America briefly, that was the first time in my entire life I heard someone say 'removed,' with sincerity about a black person.. with zero shame.. Just fucking meant it.

Americans treatment of race across the board is fucked. The fact that so many well-meaning people who want a world where race is as important as hair colour, won't stop making race relevant in every conversation...

It's absolutely fucked.

Middle aged white dude in 'merica here. The amount of legitimate racists who openly identify themselves when I drive my old beat up pickup truck is insane.

We have a real problem that requires we focus on race until we remove racists from power. Well meaning people are just those fighting the issue of racism. You may see it different but we won't fix it by ignoring it.

He doesn't see it differently, he's a concern trolling racist a step away from screeching All Lives Matter.

Fair opinion... But if you actually listen to the racist for 5 seconds they directly use the kinds of rhetoric I'm referring to to legitimise their rhetoric and behaviours.

One can battle racists and racism, without being racist. Unfortunately, there have been many many cases of Americans not understanding that in recent years.

It's probably a loud small group, but your comments suggest that it's still a problem.

From my experience in semi rural America it's 50/50. I drive the old shit truck and hear racist shit from about half the white people I interact with. It's not a loud small group unfortunately. It's a group that stays quiet around brown people or foreign people that only speaks when it feels comfortable thinking it's around other racists. I used to think it was a loud small group. Now, I cannot overstate how unbelievably racist they are.

So hang on, you've correctly identified there's a lot of racism in the US, but your solution... Is that we shouldn't bring up race in racially biased situations? We shouldn't call out racism?

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Look, I agree with you in regular situations. I am frequently frustrated that racism is perpetuated by those claiming to abhor it.

However, you cannot credibly claim that race did not matter in this example.

Leading by example for the next generation by never making race an issue yourself is noble. Refusing to acknowledge naked racism when you encounter it is wrong.

This is the same kind of argument as violence really. Take a lesson from martial arts tradition. Never be try one to bring violence. However, knowing how to defend the weak when violence comes to them is something else.

I mean, we have statistics that say this is a racially biased problem. By default the conversation needs to involve race.

I would love this to be teased out.

Could you explain the chain of events that specifically means this cop deserves to lose his job and be called a murdered... Because of those statistics.

Genuinely i think it would be educational if everyone understood that chain of logic..

As soon as it stops mattering, they will.

Imho.. you normalise thinking that race matters when race is brought into as many things as possible

You legitimise their rhetoric to an extent

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You read this story and splurted out that sentence?

I watched the footage.

Her race is irrelevant to the what went down... Obviously.

Obviously it matters. It’s just that there’s no better or worse race but we are all different. Ignoring the differences is equally discriminating. We are all equal in human rights but we are not clones.

Like I said... As much as hair colour.

We will get there some day

Not really as hair colour unless hair colour is connected to culture and heritage. Diversity isn’t something to be pursued just because of social justice but it is a genuinely good thing for society and exchange of ideas. Homogeneous societies are stale and uncreative. When many cultures work together they are stronger than all of them separately.

Lol.. of fucking course hair colour is connected to culture and heritage!? In the precise same ways that race is.

Nobody here wants a homogenous society. Why you tryna strawman me?!

I am the one arguing that race should matter as much as hair colour so nobody even notices when brunettes and gingers and blondes work together etc.

It's crazy that you made up another person just now.. wtf

The original phrasing of your comment is bound to evoke such responses, it comes off as a bit culturally blue pilled so to say hence mixed reactions.

If you were a political candidate it could cost you a lot for example but obviously this is just forum. You will just get some scolding and that’s it. Take it as free of charge friendly advice

Slack is understandable...

But people making shit up is not.

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