Why women or minorities would vote R is just completely beyond me

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Women and minorities voting for conservatives always gives me real "Jews for Hitler" vibes.

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Ugh I think you guys just are so isolated in your bubble and the politics is so polarised that you don’t understand anything that isn’t agreeing with your own views.
You even think of it as some pure evil stuff when it’s just different views and way of life.

Some people want to live traditional life and they view republicans as someone who upholds their traditional values. Probably religious too.

It may seem strange but many people have different values and what they deem important.

You can’t just go „ohwowoowa they have different views than me, how can they?” Cause that’s super immature and narcissistic

You can live a traditional life without forcing other people to do it

Well the other side does exactly the same. Hence no one can communicate anymore and we only dwell in our isolated meme bubbles and feed our egos with how much superior we are than them

Well the other side does exactly the same.

Oh?

"They force me to live in a society where people not like me are not opressed!!"

I meant the conservatives dwell in their own bubbles and think exactly the same how superior they are etc

Everyone thinks they have a monopoly on being the most awesome human being and refuses to even acknowledge that it might not be the case.

Our society was ruined by narcissism

Except one side is all about taking freedoms away from people, and the other is about making sure people don't have their freedoms taken. They don't have any moral high ground to stand on here. Stop acting like both sides are the same. They fundamentally are not.

Conservative spaces ban users on sight for anything remotely dissenting. Do you really see that in leftist spaces? People do get banned in leftist spaces, often for being bigoted while Conservative spaces embrace bigotry and ban those who call it out.

And then there's folks like you who settle on on some nonsense centrism. Conservatives' idea of a "traditional life" comprises the following:

  1. Married with a white wife who is ideally a virgin because weirdo conservatives want someone "pure". Or an Asian wife that is super subservient so the ©traditional*" minded weirdo is assured he won't be cheated on.

  2. Wife will have kids, the more the better

  3. She won't work, because a) she'll have more time to take care of the kids when it's really more about b), her not earning her own money so she and her kids becomes financially reliant on her working husband.

  4. Girls being groomed at a young age so they later believe that getting married and becoming a stay at home mom was really a choice they made independently when it absolutely wasn't.

Then there's guys like you who read all of the above and simply say "wow guise way to be intolerant of other peoples' way of life". Like give me a break with that BS.

I meant the conservatives dwell in their own bubbles and think exactly the same how superior they are etc

But the person you replied to didn't say anything about a bubble or bring superior, what they said was:

You can live a traditional life without forcing other people to do it

So you ignored them entirely to have a completely different conversation about how "both sides don't listen"?

Who is forcing the tradfans to do anything other than acknowledge that some people are different?

Well the other side does exactly the same.

As usual, asserted without any evidence.

Damn leftists, telling women to work and live independently of men... It's the exact same as what the right does 🙄

Some people want to live traditional life and they view republicans as someone who upholds their traditional values. Probably religious too.

You don't vote Republican because you want to live a traditional life. You can do that in your own house without involving politics.

You vote Republican because you want everyone else to live a traditional life.

There's nothing traditional about banning abortion. The Bible mentions abortion exactly once. Numbers 5 : 11-31. It tells you how do perform possibly the least safe abortion method I have ever run across. The Bible is Pro-choice.

Utter nonsense.

Don't like abortions? Then don't get abortions.

It's that simple.

There's plenty of things I don't like too. But I'm not over here trying to outlaw bibles and country music.

The Republican party that likes to make claim to being pro-individual freedom....it's such a farce I can't believe you all say it with a straight face.

"Then don't get abortions" unless you are a Republican. Cuz then it is something you can just pray about and your side won't be criticial at all. The OP saying that values are different is rarely correct. It is identity. And some people have so strongly identified with being a conservative/republican/maga that nothing about values will change their voting. I can't believe we are still talking about a difference in morals after years of Trump going against every value the right has claimed to hold. Clearly it is not about values.

Ugh I think you guys just are so isolated in your bubble

Oh really? Did the fact that you were replying on Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com clue you in?

You can’t just go „ohwowoowa they have different views than me, how can they?”

Actually you can, if it's literally a community dedicated to "undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology".

But I agree with you, they don't vote on politics, they vote for the party they are told represent their "traditional life" and "traditional values", probably religious too. In other words, without thinking for themselves and just taking the word of their community / religious leaders, who are in a sunk cost fallacy not to admit they've been wrong to the people who've been looking up to them. This is also the worst possible way to vote in a democracy, and if the majority of people do so, it will not be a democracy for much longer.

A "moderate" conservative acquaintance of mine told me to my face that he thinks the world would be a better place if us LGBT+ folks simply stopped existing. He's also completely convinced that all gender identities that are not cis are fake and we're just pretending, and that none of this stuff should be talked about in public or promoted in any way because it's "mental illness."

Do you fucking understand that conservatives aren't happy with just living their life the way they want to, but they want to force me to live my life the way they want to? For someone going off about how "we guys" (leftists I guess?) are "super immature and narcissistic", you're being hilariously myopic about this.

Do you seriously think that any of us would have a problem with conservatives if they just fucking left us alone? I don't give a flying fuck about how they want to live their lives and I'd be more than happy to let them do their own thing, that isn't the fucking issue here you utter cabbage – the issue is that these people literally want me to stop existing and actually use physical violence against me (and have done so for my whole fucking life; do you think the 80's were a great time to grow up in for someone who's not cishet?) just because they don't fucking approve of how I dress, how I look, and who I love.

You've got your head so far up your own ass that you think the problem we have with conservatives is that we don't like that they're different, and that they're completely happy just letting us queers (or black people, or brown people, or whoever the fuck they've been told to hate) live our lives if we leave them alone? How can you be so fucking blind? Have you been paying any fucking attention to what's been going on in the past, I dunno, SEVERAL FUCKING DECADES? Have you missed all the shootings at LGBT+ clubs? The murders? The laws restricting our access to medical treatment? The laws restricting our ability to even talk openly about who we are?

Fuck. And then you have the fucking nerve to call us immature and narcissistic, you idiotic fucking waste of carbon cunt.

You just paint some imaginary target form schizo people shooting at others or wanting others to die and call them republicans. It’s insane

You showed your true colors at the end. You are as bad as what you think you fight against

I hope you die in a fucking fire you piece of fucking human garbage

Oh how angery we are, that surely helps to prove your point

You never had a point other than discrimination is ok so long as it's your way of life so with all due respect eat dirt

The meme literally references how you bastards took our right to bodily autonomy away and now if women are raped in half the country they have no choice but to carry the child even if it kills them. Take your traditional way of life and shove it all the way up your wazoo you livid piece of shit. Go be a fucking Bible eater at home and don't pretend voting Republican doesn't hurt people.