I wish gun owners would advocate more for hunting invasive species, like in the US there's too many feral hogs and nutria.
They do. Texas allows ariel hunting of hogs, there's no season, and no tag limit. I know lots of other areas have similar approaches of differentiating hunting laws and seasons when it comes to invasive species.
All the hunters I've known, have been an outdoor guys and nature conservationists, but also conservative usually.
No tag limit? That's too far. I think the limit should be..say...30 to 50 feral hogs.
You should come and see how many and how invasive they really are.
Psst…he was making reference to a meme (see other reply for screenshot).
I think they still have legal requirements about wanton waste, or at least best effort.
The no tag limit makes sense though, as they're an incredibly invasive species and the aspirational goal is removal.
None of this should be considered legal advice, I could be mistaken on the regulations. You should check them out yourself to make sure I'm not full of shit, or confused.
The difference is that feral hogs are just that feral. They aint native and are an active harm to the environment, while the incentives may be perverse they would also be decently more effective than what we have right now.
The point of “perverse incentives” is that the plan doesn’t create a solution at all and isn’t remotely effective because it can can lead to things like some dude catching young females and throwing them in an enclosure with a male, letting them go once they’re pregnant, actively kill off the produced males, and repeat with the females.
If you tell a city to bring in dead rats for a reward, someone is going to start breeding rats in his basement.
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To make it clear, I’m for no tag limit, but I worry about rewards. Let the sadists go wild with blood. :p Not that I think hunters are sadists, it just takes a different kind of person to massacre on a scale like that.
Fair enough but such systems have worked in the past, the Aussies put a bounty on emu after the Emu war which worked out quite fine. Maybe mandate that that blood samples and location of kill must be turned in as well that way the department of fish and wild life can do some checking on things. I feel the bounty system could be implemented pretty easily, actually just make it so only hunters with a specific license can get the bounties with regular property check ups.
Bit harder to breed emus than pigs.
I got it, even if nobody else did.
Most gun owners that I know are not hunters. I'd like to change their perspectives and get them outdoors.
I wish gun owners would advocate more for hunting invasive species, like in the US there's too many feral hogs and nutria.
They do. Texas allows ariel hunting of hogs, there's no season, and no tag limit. I know lots of other areas have similar approaches of differentiating hunting laws and seasons when it comes to invasive species.
All the hunters I've known, have been an outdoor guys and nature conservationists, but also conservative usually.
No tag limit? That's too far. I think the limit should be..say...30 to 50 feral hogs.
You should come and see how many and how invasive they really are.
Psst…he was making reference to a meme (see other reply for screenshot).
I think they still have legal requirements about wanton waste, or at least best effort.
The no tag limit makes sense though, as they're an incredibly invasive species and the aspirational goal is removal.
None of this should be considered legal advice, I could be mistaken on the regulations. You should check them out yourself to make sure I'm not full of shit, or confused.
Great podcast episode on it from Reply All
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Seems like not everybody got the reference.
We need to do a complete extermination of the feral hog population, not only should it be no tag limit there should be a bounty on them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive
The difference is that feral hogs are just that feral. They aint native and are an active harm to the environment, while the incentives may be perverse they would also be decently more effective than what we have right now.
The point of “perverse incentives” is that the plan doesn’t create a solution at all and isn’t remotely effective because it can can lead to things like some dude catching young females and throwing them in an enclosure with a male, letting them go once they’re pregnant, actively kill off the produced males, and repeat with the females.
If you tell a city to bring in dead rats for a reward, someone is going to start breeding rats in his basement.
Edit:
To make it clear, I’m for no tag limit, but I worry about rewards. Let the sadists go wild with blood. :p Not that I think hunters are sadists, it just takes a different kind of person to massacre on a scale like that.
Fair enough but such systems have worked in the past, the Aussies put a bounty on emu after the Emu war which worked out quite fine. Maybe mandate that that blood samples and location of kill must be turned in as well that way the department of fish and wild life can do some checking on things. I feel the bounty system could be implemented pretty easily, actually just make it so only hunters with a specific license can get the bounties with regular property check ups.
Bit harder to breed emus than pigs.
I got it, even if nobody else did.
Most gun owners that I know are not hunters. I'd like to change their perspectives and get them outdoors.