Trump heading for Republican 'coronation' as 2024 rivals struggle to stop him

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Trump heading for Republican 'coronation' as 2024 rivals struggle to stop him
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No, he's really not. He's in how many court cases at the moment? His Russian funders are busy losing a land war they started. He's already lost the general once. People had four years of him so he's a known quantity.

No, that's fucking stupid. He's not more dangerous than ever. It's idiotic to suggest so.

Should we we be cautious? Of course. But the best possible outcome for this election slcycle was a fracturing of the Republican part and that's what has happened. They're fucked because after 40 years of Republicanism, they don't mean or stand for shit other than hate and oppression. Their entire policy back catalogue is bunk. They've got nothing and are on the wrong side of everything and everyone, even their voters, know it.

This just good popcorn content at this point.

I would suggest the Russians have never had a greater interest in controlling a US president than right now. Given how disastrous a Trump win would be, this is not the time for positivism and certainties. Anything could happen.

The court cases mean nothing if he's elected

He's going to have to work to be elected during the court cases. He's already incredibly unpopular as is, and he'll have constant news dripping out about how big of a traitor he is and how he attempted a self coup. That's not going to help his poll numbers with anyone who wasn't already a MAGAt.

That doesn't matter at all in today's political climate. Tribalism has taken over and they don't care if he's a criminal, Republicans will all vote for him simply because he's the nominee. The ONLY thing that matters is if the Dems can turn out enough of their people to beat him in the general.

That doesn't matter at all in today's political climate. Tribalism has taken over and they don't care if he's a criminal, Republicans will all vote for him simply because he's the nominee.

Wow, that's a really bad take considering that independents are what wins a candidate the election, since as you say, tribalists are going to vote for their tribe.

Independents aren't going to gargle trump's marbles in the face of overwhelming evidence of his incompetence, open fascism, and disdain for the electoral process, and there aren't nearly enough brain dead republicans to carry him in the general alone.

What independents? That argument made sense 20 years ago, but that hasn't been a thing since the Obama administration.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/20/undecided-voters-2020-swing-election-independents-399505

TLDR: Political scientist did a study and wrote a book on independents. Most people who identify as independent actually lean towards one party and actually act MORE partisan than a party member. The "true" independents/undecideds completely withdraw from politics and just don't vote at all.

That's not true. He has 2 state indictments plus federal charges. If he were elected he could only pardon the federal charges. In fact he will probably be charged soon in a 3rd state so even more fucked.

Two federal indictments, and one state (NY). Georgia will be the second state indictment.

I hope you're right. More than that, I hope this literally fractures the Republican party. The US needs more political parties.

I like your positivity, I just hope it happens like that as well. I still remember he had almost no chance to win in 2016 and somehow won, he'll even Trump was surprised he won.