Like, how do you even screw this up? Sony...the ones who have access to all the super secret technical documents, full source codes, CAD drawings, prototypes, probably even people still working there who worked on it originally etc. Things that many who work on the open source emulators can only dream of seeing.
Made a shit emulator.
Creating a good emulator takes a lot of time and money, and that I think is the true reason why.
What they have released is a MVP, a minimum viable product, it checks all the boxes for a releaseable thing and that's what the higher ups, the product leads and other finance stakeholders want to hear.
Additional features or proper scaling? Yeah, nice we put that on the list for MVP+, for sure!
When will that come? Nobody knows and we have no development time to work on it because now with the release the focus was shifted to the next project, but it is on the list and we will come back to it.
I have heard that so often in so many projects I was part of, as a grunt with no power, and for nearly all of them I still wait for the MVP+ time to ever happen.
Them, the ones having full control on the platform, failed were foss developpers succeed. They have no excuse.
FOSS developers have no cost reporting, no meetings with C level and stakeholders, no shareholders, no release plans, no schedules.
What they have is passion.
They just created what they want to create, they have a deep personal agenda to make something they want to use for themselves and that has to have therefore the polish and quality they want to have it to have.
The corporate developers wanted to make a good product too I am very sure, but if the higher ups say that it has to be released by a fixed date then there is not much that the developers can do about it.
So yes, the company has no real excuses, besides money.
Many situations proved to us that passion make better things, sadly today's AAA game developpers dosn't have any passion anymore, mostly because of pression made by boss who are only driven by money.
Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to buy a license from an emulator project, hire one or two from the team, and give them access to internal info to help fix things up? Then your internal team just integrates it with the console and you ship it.
That sounds way cheaper than NIH...
There are not much good commercial emulator projects, and open source emulators are not easy to license due to the nature of the open source licences (often GPL 2 or 3) used.
A iot of the FOSS projects are developed by a handful of people, often just one or two. So you buy a licence from those individuals and remove and replace the rest. Or just hire the one or two devs and they can pull in the bits they wrote. You're always free to relicense your work.
And if it's GPL v2, there's no problem because you can probably treat it as "firmware" since it's a console and not a PC (e.g. like TiVo did). GPL v3 blocks that loophole though.
Sounds complicated and like a lot of potential legal trouble, have it done by their own staff seems easier.
They don't want it to succeed.
Why?
Because there's more money to be made by releasing HD remakes that they charge you out the nose for.
This remind me of Gta San Andreas remaster somewhat
Can't add micro transactions or lootboxes to emulated games.
They even messed up the emulation on their PS Classic, despite being based on a simpler console and having full control of the hardware and software.
I stopped blaming greed because it holds no one responsible and is like calling a lion a murderer, or a tapeworm a parasite. The product is bad because everyone who works at Sony is incompetent and dumb.
I would not say everyone but everyone in power is incompetent and dumb.
The normal employee who just hast to do as told can only do as told and if that means that all the good features and functionalities are out of scope then that it is.
It has nothing to do with the competence or intelligence of the employee
You misunderstood my point.
Can you clarify?
Sorry then, English is not my native tongue so most likely it got lost in internal translation.
Sony screws up everything.
It looks like their complaints are primarily about how they handle processing the output (scaling and filters). That's not anything having internal documents helps with.
Can't they just like ... buy the rights to a PS2 emulator that is already working?
Or at least hire the people who created it?
Doubt the PS5 is much different from a PC.
Microsoft is a terrible company, but at least they treat their back catalogue with some degree of respect. I just wish Sony cared more.
In my experience Xbox to 360 was not that good. Fable stuttered a lot.
PS2 to PS5 though, yeah, I know Sony's architectures have been all over the place, but come on.
It might have been your console. The 360 was the last MS console I had (PS3 was the last actual console) and I had no issues playing the fable games.
Not Fable games, just Fable, the one running through backward compatibility. I had no problem with Fable 2 and 3, or any other actual 360 game.
Charging more for a shittier product. Classic.
"Why would anyone play these" hasn't died with Jim Ryan, it seems.
Like, how do you even screw this up? Sony...the ones who have access to all the super secret technical documents, full source codes, CAD drawings, prototypes, probably even people still working there who worked on it originally etc. Things that many who work on the open source emulators can only dream of seeing.
Made a shit emulator.
Creating a good emulator takes a lot of time and money, and that I think is the true reason why.
What they have released is a MVP, a minimum viable product, it checks all the boxes for a releaseable thing and that's what the higher ups, the product leads and other finance stakeholders want to hear.
Additional features or proper scaling? Yeah, nice we put that on the list for MVP+, for sure! When will that come? Nobody knows and we have no development time to work on it because now with the release the focus was shifted to the next project, but it is on the list and we will come back to it.
I have heard that so often in so many projects I was part of, as a grunt with no power, and for nearly all of them I still wait for the MVP+ time to ever happen.
Them, the ones having full control on the platform, failed were foss developpers succeed. They have no excuse.
FOSS developers have no cost reporting, no meetings with C level and stakeholders, no shareholders, no release plans, no schedules. What they have is passion.
They just created what they want to create, they have a deep personal agenda to make something they want to use for themselves and that has to have therefore the polish and quality they want to have it to have.
The corporate developers wanted to make a good product too I am very sure, but if the higher ups say that it has to be released by a fixed date then there is not much that the developers can do about it.
So yes, the company has no real excuses, besides money.
Many situations proved to us that passion make better things, sadly today's AAA game developpers dosn't have any passion anymore, mostly because of pression made by boss who are only driven by money.
Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to buy a license from an emulator project, hire one or two from the team, and give them access to internal info to help fix things up? Then your internal team just integrates it with the console and you ship it.
That sounds way cheaper than NIH...
There are not much good commercial emulator projects, and open source emulators are not easy to license due to the nature of the open source licences (often GPL 2 or 3) used.
A iot of the FOSS projects are developed by a handful of people, often just one or two. So you buy a licence from those individuals and remove and replace the rest. Or just hire the one or two devs and they can pull in the bits they wrote. You're always free to relicense your work.
And if it's GPL v2, there's no problem because you can probably treat it as "firmware" since it's a console and not a PC (e.g. like TiVo did). GPL v3 blocks that loophole though.
Sounds complicated and like a lot of potential legal trouble, have it done by their own staff seems easier.
They don't want it to succeed.
Why?
Because there's more money to be made by releasing HD remakes that they charge you out the nose for.
This remind me of Gta San Andreas remaster somewhat
Can't add micro transactions or lootboxes to emulated games.
They even messed up the emulation on their PS Classic, despite being based on a simpler console and having full control of the hardware and software.
I stopped blaming greed because it holds no one responsible and is like calling a lion a murderer, or a tapeworm a parasite. The product is bad because everyone who works at Sony is incompetent and dumb.
I would not say everyone but everyone in power is incompetent and dumb.
The normal employee who just hast to do as told can only do as told and if that means that all the good features and functionalities are out of scope then that it is. It has nothing to do with the competence or intelligence of the employee
You misunderstood my point.
Can you clarify?
Sorry then, English is not my native tongue so most likely it got lost in internal translation.
Sony screws up everything.
It looks like their complaints are primarily about how they handle processing the output (scaling and filters). That's not anything having internal documents helps with.
Can't they just like ... buy the rights to a PS2 emulator that is already working?
Or at least hire the people who created it?
Doubt the PS5 is much different from a PC.
Microsoft is a terrible company, but at least they treat their back catalogue with some degree of respect. I just wish Sony cared more.
In my experience Xbox to 360 was not that good. Fable stuttered a lot.
PS2 to PS5 though, yeah, I know Sony's architectures have been all over the place, but come on.
It might have been your console. The 360 was the last MS console I had (PS3 was the last actual console) and I had no issues playing the fable games.
Not Fable games, just Fable, the one running through backward compatibility. I had no problem with Fable 2 and 3, or any other actual 360 game.
Charging more for a shittier product. Classic.
"Why would anyone play these" hasn't died with Jim Ryan, it seems.
Omfg that cookie banner is pure cancer.
You need to play these on a 14” CRT on the floor.