NYT | Rudy Giuliani Was Always Like This

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Opinion | Rudy Giuliani Was Always Like This
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That shithead could have rode off into the sunset and had an amazing retirement. Decided to hitch himself to a criminal moron instead. Enjoy your destruction Rudy.

Decided to hitch himself

to enrich himself, he was a fool, thought Trump was a billionaire.

The thing is, with even the slightest bit of research, he'd have known that Trump always stiffs people who work for him.

I'd add the Civil War but then some sea lion would start harping about "nuh uh that was the demoncrats!"

I always ask people like that which party's rallies welcome people waving around the traitor flag.

My favorite is when they like to try and pretend that the Southern strategy didn't happen, like as if all of this shit isn't in the national archives.

Yeah, that shit pisses me off. Look at a map of states that voted for and against the Civil Rights Act, then look at a map of the 2020 election results. They're practically the same map. The racists just switched parties in the South once they were convinced that Democrats in the North had abandoned them.

Ask them why Reagan would kick off his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi with a speech about states’ rights

That's why you say Conservatives, the North was Liberal, the South was Conservative.

I'll add the Wikipedia link since the NYMag link is pay walled.

I'll say this, it's amazing what you miss as a kid, I lived there through those years and my pops was a Riker's guard and the NYPD and DoC are very close, I'd bet my father was there with the rioters that day.

My take on it is these guys were a bunch of pieces of shit, they were rioting to protect themselves from accountability. They attacked journalists and specifically targeting a black cameraman to attack while calling him the n-word and other horrible things. It really shows you what the real motivations were here, they didn't want to be held accountable by a black mayor, and then they started making up rumors of drug addiction about Mayor Dinkens, and probably pulled their whole "quiet quitting" bullshit where they choose not to do their jobs as law enforcement officers, just like we saw them do under Mayor DiBlasio when they didn't like his reaction to what happened to George Floyd.

New York City will never be as good as we want it to be until the Police union, NYPD, and DoC are cleaned up, they're corrupt, bigoted, and their propagation and support of the Nazi-like "blue line" bullshit and Trump makes them borderline treasonous, NYC has to do better, it's time to clean up the police, unfortunately Mayor Adams is absolutely not the guy for that job, since cops just protect cops, and all that he's done since he's been mayor has been kissing the asses of his fellow officers.

As a former NYer, it's not just the politicians that are rotten anymore. There's a LOT of extremely ugly souls in NY anymore. So glad I moved away. It's unrecognizable anymore, there's so much me and mine.

I'll let you in on a little secret, it's not just NY at all, I'm not sure where you moved to, but if it's suburban or urban you will definitely find more of these types of folks.

The problem is that people have become entitled AF, and they simply cannot deal with inconvenience anymore. I'd like to blame Trump and say that he enabled people to act like the shitheads they are, but we were just heading in this direction. Maybe there's just not enough people smacking the fuck out of rude people these days, so they get away with being dickheads whereas twenty/thirty years ago somebody would have popped them in the mouth for being an asshole.

This is one of the reasons I was so glad when the "Karen video" trend started, we need some kind of accountability to stifle the assholes.

My kid works at one of our too many local Dunkin Donuts, she said she spends like half of her time getting yelled at by rude assholes, and it was the same at the previous McJob she had, and will probably happen at whatever McJob she moves onto next.

I moved from upstate New York to the greater Seattle area People are just as entitled here, for sure, butnthey feel a little safer or something becuase they don't make it everyone's problem around them. Usually. There's always outliers.

Absolutely there's always outliers.

Also I was kinda surprised/not surprised when you said you were from upstate, there are a lot of distinct differences from the greater area around NYC, but upstate has plenty of people with the capacity to be assholes, Rochester has gotten pretty bad, and my in-laws are from around Buffalo and they're constantly causing drama for each other and getting into drama. Now with that said upstate NY is gorgeous, lots of great scenery, but also lots of outdated run down areas too.

I hope you enjoy Seattle, I have a few friends both from or living there and they love(d) it, also talking about gorgeous scenery Washington has plenty of that.

Yes, I truly love it here: coasts, deserts, mountains, rain forests, exposed ancient geology, hot springs, and more parks than you can shake several sticks at. Its not all perfect though for sure, the wealth inequality is absolutely astounding.

Remember when we thought he was Americas mayor during 9/11?

I recall others thinking it.

Speaking out against him was in line with being against the Iraq war.

The country had a psychotic episode.

Those caught up in it were enjoying the ride.

The rest were vilified for pointing out the obvious.

Rudy being "America's Mayor" was never about Rudy.

George W. Bush went into 9-11 being absolutely despised by half the country. He was an idiot. The election was stolen for him by Republican supreme Court justices.

These terrorist attacks happened on Bush's watch, and we saw him sit there for 7 minutes or so, doing absolutely nothing after he found out the nation was under attack.

Much the same way that the left was happy about the NY governor during Covid. They were happy to embrace any leader other than the moron in chief.

But people who were paying attention understood that Rudy's primary contribution to 9-11 is that he had moved the disaster response HQ INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER (before 9-11 obviously, BUT AFTER THAT BUILDING WAS ALREADY THE TARGET OF A TERRORIST ATTACK LESS THAN 10 YEARS PRIOR).

He fucked a pig. Now he’s just a pigfucker. Coulda been “America’s Mayor” or some horseshit.