let's collectively agree to leave the political compass on reddit
That sub was so toxic x_x
Yeah I personally loved the idea of it. But it was clearly just an alt-right dog whistle.
If a bar accepts everyone, they accept Nazis, and if a bar accepts Nazis then it is a Nazi bar.
"political orientation" is just the grouping and dilution of personal opinion. Change my mind.
That's basically the point, to just attempt to summarise one's complex beliefs, morals and opinions. Anyone who sees "political orientation" as anything other than that, like some defining or immutable attribute, is delusional.
I agree to a point, but I think there is some value in summarizing your views. I rarely have time to go into minute detail about my opinions when taking to people.
the political compass is complete bullshit, even if the results were as "accurate" as possible (which they very much aren't)
I think the ONLY useful way to use it is how I do, which is just every couple of years to track how my own views and beliefs have changed throughout me aging (still just for fun/personal interest!). It's not perfect but it can at least measure the change in a single person. To nobodies surprise I started bottom left, close to centre 10 years ago, and now I'm significantly closer to the bottom left corner
Yeah but it says I'm exactly where I wanted to be out so it must be perfect /s
Splitting up social and fiscal policy is better than wrapping everything up in "left VS right". It's not perfect, but it's not the worst way to summarize your views.
As an economic right libertarian, I agree with your morals / social ideas, but disagree on the point of fiscal policy. The problem today is that everyone with right-leaning fiscal policies (not to be related in any way to the social or moral "right wing") is either forced to abandon their fiscal ideas for the side of morality (the left / democratic party), or become a monster to align with a group that supports their fiscal ideas (the far right / republican party). That's why we need a party for those who support more hands-off government regulation, but decent morals regarding inclusivity, diversity, LGBTQ+ support, etc... Of course, America's political system is too screwed at this point for that to ever happen, so I vote democrat to not let the (Extreme) Christian (Bigoted) Republican Theocracy get their way... Because our economy is already too far gone anyways, so I'd rather live through a collapse and have decent morals, than live through the same collapse as the first stage to a recover, but return to the 1700s...
By right leaning fiscal policies do you mean de-regulation / less taxes / smaller state?
Generally their views are privatize, deregulate, and free market capitalism, which I think we've proven to be a system with super shitty repercussions at this point.
Actually, this is a fine example of capitalism working as intended. If a super regulated, government-controlled platform goes corrupt: good luck. Reddit, a private company goes corrupt? Just leave and make a new, better version.
There are options between the binary "free market capitalism" and "everything is fully government controlled" you know.
I think it'd also help to clarify "regulation" as there are many regulations around inclusivity, environmental protection, and many other things that are useful and good.
There's also plenty of other regulations that are terrible, anti-free market, and make many people's lives worse for little to no gain.
let's collectively agree to leave the political compass on reddit
That sub was so toxic x_x
Yeah I personally loved the idea of it. But it was clearly just an alt-right dog whistle.
If a bar accepts everyone, they accept Nazis, and if a bar accepts Nazis then it is a Nazi bar.
"political orientation" is just the grouping and dilution of personal opinion. Change my mind.
That's basically the point, to just attempt to summarise one's complex beliefs, morals and opinions. Anyone who sees "political orientation" as anything other than that, like some defining or immutable attribute, is delusional.
I agree to a point, but I think there is some value in summarizing your views. I rarely have time to go into minute detail about my opinions when taking to people.
the political compass is complete bullshit, even if the results were as "accurate" as possible (which they very much aren't)
I think the ONLY useful way to use it is how I do, which is just every couple of years to track how my own views and beliefs have changed throughout me aging (still just for fun/personal interest!). It's not perfect but it can at least measure the change in a single person. To nobodies surprise I started bottom left, close to centre 10 years ago, and now I'm significantly closer to the bottom left corner
Yeah but it says I'm exactly where I wanted to be out so it must be perfect /s
Splitting up social and fiscal policy is better than wrapping everything up in "left VS right". It's not perfect, but it's not the worst way to summarize your views.
As an economic right libertarian, I agree with your morals / social ideas, but disagree on the point of fiscal policy. The problem today is that everyone with right-leaning fiscal policies (not to be related in any way to the social or moral "right wing") is either forced to abandon their fiscal ideas for the side of morality (the left / democratic party), or become a monster to align with a group that supports their fiscal ideas (the far right / republican party). That's why we need a party for those who support more hands-off government regulation, but decent morals regarding inclusivity, diversity, LGBTQ+ support, etc... Of course, America's political system is too screwed at this point for that to ever happen, so I vote democrat to not let the (Extreme) Christian (Bigoted) Republican Theocracy get their way... Because our economy is already too far gone anyways, so I'd rather live through a collapse and have decent morals, than live through the same collapse as the first stage to a recover, but return to the 1700s...
By right leaning fiscal policies do you mean de-regulation / less taxes / smaller state?
Generally their views are privatize, deregulate, and free market capitalism, which I think we've proven to be a system with super shitty repercussions at this point.
Actually, this is a fine example of capitalism working as intended. If a super regulated, government-controlled platform goes corrupt: good luck. Reddit, a private company goes corrupt? Just leave and make a new, better version.
There are options between the binary "free market capitalism" and "everything is fully government controlled" you know.
I think it'd also help to clarify "regulation" as there are many regulations around inclusivity, environmental protection, and many other things that are useful and good.
There's also plenty of other regulations that are terrible, anti-free market, and make many people's lives worse for little to no gain.
Only -8.51???
Smh ok Stalin.
Op is a tankie confirmed
Stalin was not a libertarian