Not gonna lie. It sounds like Sweet Baby should be putting their name on things they work on. Their reputation should reflect their body of work. If their poor writing is the reason people are disappointed in games, then people have a right to know.
The problem is that it sounds like what they actually do isn't writing, it's some sort of EO QC. From what I have been able to find online, it seems like they get hired by game developers to sanitize games in a way that would appear (to some people) to be inclusive ways. However, just because you're not a fan of their choice to make a male character female or vice versa, doesn't necessarily mean you're a bigot. This sounds like the same sort of thing WoTC is doing with their own IP by trying to change Drow etc. I don't agree that Drow are problematic.
I don't intend to spend money on new IP made products that seem to want to change lore and such with the intent of "being more inclusive" or less problematic.
Specifically because I feel like this wasn't a conversation people were having until some people who are not negatively effected by the black = evil stereotype in media have all the sudden decided to white knight a movement against it in the most ham fisted way possible and it's often pretty insulting.
I have said repeatedly that inclusivity works when the differences aren't highlighted and there is a successful and not forced way to make that a part of most media, but making it the singular feature of a character in any media (that their existence is there just to fill a quota) is just tokenism.
They also write. But regardless of what they do, it doesn't directly go into the game. Developers still gave the final say. A lot of gamers are missing this. But if I was a game developer I wouldn't want to work with a consultancy company created by a racist/sexist. Hopefully the company makes changes or developers choose a better firm.
Can someone provide the opposite of the tl;dr? A too short, didn't understand?
There are adorable infant laborers stoking irate mobs to spite a boiling water attendant.
A curation page is made to inform users if Sweet Baby worked a game or not. Sweet Baby employees started to harass (mass flag campaign) the curation page and it's maker.
Looking at the curator list, whatever the intent, it's actually a very handy list of titles with mid to astoundingly poor writing, a lot of which apparently even SBI seems to disown, since they're not on their website (but they are credited by the games themselves).
So yeah, I don't think I need it cause I already didn't waste my money on any of those on their own merits, but it's funny to see there's a common thread.
They really put the Streisand effect to good use here, huh? Nichegamers screenshot showed 9,000ish followers and they're at 87,000 at the time of this comment.
Yeah. Funny is it.
some people need education on the Streisand effect :)
No idea who Sweet Baby were, or I thought so.
They worked on the writing of quite a few famous things, and surprisingly, they made one niche full game themselves that I have played, one of the playdate's initial games.
Yeah, that curator's crusade against them doesn't smell too good, very gamergate-y. That said the call to flag the curator en masse could get them in trouble. Probably not the right solution.
Yeah, that curator’s crusade against them doesn’t smell too good
All they want to do is boycott games made by Sweet Baby. Let them. They're not trying to get the games removed from stores, or stopping people from buying them. Hell pro-Sweet Baby people can use the list to know that games do buy.
I've seen their discussion board. So yeah, intent counts too, and I'd advise anyone who may want to join/use that group to carefully consider why it was made.
My personal opinion : they're terrible people.
Applies to sweet baby inc too. Both of these parties are bigots.
you are very predictable. how can you be this predictable. they're terrible people because you don't like what they say. that does not make terrible people that means they disagree with you. that seems very childish. it just seems you cant handle people disagreeing with you.
They're terrible people because they use transphobic slurs out of nowhere and label anything they don't like "woke". Only took reading a dozen messages to get to that point. Also, welcome to the block list.
It's the woke agenda gone mad. You either die a hero or see yourself go woke until you're broke or something.
oh no have you ever used the internet or live in the real world hehe blocklist the irony.
who are you kidding you knew exactly who they where. that's just funny.
Boy, what a dishonest title for what happened here.
Not gonna lie. It sounds like Sweet Baby should be putting their name on things they work on. Their reputation should reflect their body of work. If their poor writing is the reason people are disappointed in games, then people have a right to know. The problem is that it sounds like what they actually do isn't writing, it's some sort of EO QC. From what I have been able to find online, it seems like they get hired by game developers to sanitize games in a way that would appear (to some people) to be inclusive ways. However, just because you're not a fan of their choice to make a male character female or vice versa, doesn't necessarily mean you're a bigot. This sounds like the same sort of thing WoTC is doing with their own IP by trying to change Drow etc. I don't agree that Drow are problematic.
I don't intend to spend money on new IP made products that seem to want to change lore and such with the intent of "being more inclusive" or less problematic.
Specifically because I feel like this wasn't a conversation people were having until some people who are not negatively effected by the black = evil stereotype in media have all the sudden decided to white knight a movement against it in the most ham fisted way possible and it's often pretty insulting.
I have said repeatedly that inclusivity works when the differences aren't highlighted and there is a successful and not forced way to make that a part of most media, but making it the singular feature of a character in any media (that their existence is there just to fill a quota) is just tokenism.
They also write. But regardless of what they do, it doesn't directly go into the game. Developers still gave the final say. A lot of gamers are missing this. But if I was a game developer I wouldn't want to work with a consultancy company created by a racist/sexist. Hopefully the company makes changes or developers choose a better firm.
Can someone provide the opposite of the tl;dr? A too short, didn't understand?
There are adorable infant laborers stoking irate mobs to spite a boiling water attendant.
A curation page is made to inform users if Sweet Baby worked a game or not. Sweet Baby employees started to harass (mass flag campaign) the curation page and it's maker.
Looking at the curator list, whatever the intent, it's actually a very handy list of titles with mid to astoundingly poor writing, a lot of which apparently even SBI seems to disown, since they're not on their website (but they are credited by the games themselves).
So yeah, I don't think I need it cause I already didn't waste my money on any of those on their own merits, but it's funny to see there's a common thread.
They really put the Streisand effect to good use here, huh? Nichegamers screenshot showed 9,000ish followers and they're at 87,000 at the time of this comment.
Yeah. Funny is it.
some people need education on the Streisand effect :)
No idea who Sweet Baby were, or I thought so.
They worked on the writing of quite a few famous things, and surprisingly, they made one niche full game themselves that I have played, one of the playdate's initial games.
Yeah, that curator's crusade against them doesn't smell too good, very gamergate-y. That said the call to flag the curator en masse could get them in trouble. Probably not the right solution.
All they want to do is boycott games made by Sweet Baby. Let them. They're not trying to get the games removed from stores, or stopping people from buying them. Hell pro-Sweet Baby people can use the list to know that games do buy.
I've seen their discussion board. So yeah, intent counts too, and I'd advise anyone who may want to join/use that group to carefully consider why it was made.
My personal opinion : they're terrible people.
Applies to sweet baby inc too. Both of these parties are bigots.
you are very predictable. how can you be this predictable. they're terrible people because you don't like what they say. that does not make terrible people that means they disagree with you. that seems very childish. it just seems you cant handle people disagreeing with you.
They're terrible people because they use transphobic slurs out of nowhere and label anything they don't like "woke". Only took reading a dozen messages to get to that point. Also, welcome to the block list.
It's the woke agenda gone mad. You either die a hero or see yourself go woke until you're broke or something.
oh no have you ever used the internet or live in the real world hehe blocklist the irony.
who are you kidding you knew exactly who they where. that's just funny.
Boy, what a dishonest title for what happened here.
You do work in sweet Inc don't you
No, I just live in reality.