Xbox multiplayer risks your security, if it hasn't banned you already - What console users pay for.

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Xbox multiplayer risks your security, if it hasn't banned you already - What console users pay for.
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As a PC player, I never grasp why console players are willing to pay a ransom to access a product and service they already paid for.

And worst, this video shows M$ double dip dev by taking a 30% cut plus the cost of game service (like logins, verification, lobby, etc) unlike Steam that already have it covered in that cut, and triple dip by asking player to pay more.

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Don't multiplayer PC games have anti cheat software that is malware-esque and often times root level? I seem to see folks pissed about all the anti cheat software on PC all the time

Point being, don't you get fucked to play online one way or the other anymore?

PC players have the choice to install that software when they install the game. It's easy to know which games use DRM and invasive keenel level anti cheats. Console players have no idea how much personal info they are leaking to a broader audience and their 800 corporate friends.

But my point is, if you want to play said game onlline, you have to give up your privacy in unknown ways, too. There's no way to know what Denuvo or whatever is sending off to their 800 corporate friends or what they're collecting while you play, either.

yOu CaNt BuY a Pc WiTh CoNsOlE sPeCs FoR cOnSoLe PrIcEs

Really? Are you factoring in the $120/yr for 5 years just to play games over the life of your Xbox?

Good point, also there are more PC games and they are usually cheaper.

I always gamed predominantly on PC but this generation I did the maths as PC parts had become over-inflated so decided to give console a try. I still think it was a decent decision for this generation...

Game Pass can be had waaaaaay cheaper than that and you can get it all back and more in rewards points.

I spent £450ish on the console at launch including controller and a game. Equivalent GPU was £500 or more at the time.

Spent £150ish on Game Pass sub from November 2020 to July 2026 which has allowed me to play countless games I never would have bought outright.

I've made over £700 back in vouchers with over 2 years left to accumulate more. Spent half of it on games, and controllers, headset, etc. all of which I can use on my PC. Plan on saving the remaining vouchers to put towards my next PC build.

This is without mentioning other console benefits like low maintenance, Quick Resume and the fact I can use one copy of a game to play with two players online.

eXpLaIN hOw im OuT oF pOcKeT.

the problem with this argument is gamepass isn't a console exclusive feature.

you just willingly chose to not use gamepass while on PC

That's why I mentioned those other console exclusive features. Anyway the original point was about cost and I think the Series X was the best value for money at launch this gen...

  • Half the price of building a similar PC at launch.

  • Rewards are higher on console so recoup the cost more than PC.

  • I use Game Pass on both PC and Xbox with a single account to play multiplayer so cheaper on that front.

We're half way through the generation now though. PC parts have got cheaper, Game Pass Ultimate conversion ratio has dropped and rewards are drying up so probably wouldn't advocate it anymore. PC likely to be better value next gen.