IDF Allowed 100 Civilian Deaths for Every Hamas Official Targeted by Error-Prone AI System

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IDF Allowed 100 Civilian Deaths for Every Hamas Official Targeted by Error-Prone AI System
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I see, so we're just believing that it's "faulty AI" rather than deliberate decisions? When it comes to war crimes, it's not the fault of the AI.

The original article had some really damning lines. Israel is beyond barbaric they try to bomb suspects inside of their family homes instead of trying to target active combatants

“We were not interested in killing [Hamas] operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity,” A., an intelligence officer, told +972 and Local Call. “On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation, as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The system is built to look for them in these situations.”

Killing as many civilians as possible is modus operandi for israelis.

There are so many things that were horrifying about the US's prosecution of the Global War on Terror, but at least when confronted with the same problem the US was like, "what if we invented a knife missile that can hit a guy in the driver's seat of a car without hurting anybody standing next to the car?" whereas the IDF took the position that a 100:1 ratio of innocent bystander to presumed militant is totally acceptable (in an environment where fully half of those innocent bystanders are children to boot). Just absolutely ghoulish levels of inhumanity.

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"Error prone" is a funny way to say "Working as designed"

Sounds like the equivalent of US drone strikes.

Yeah, but US drone strikes aren't so intense on one small area or group of people

What do you mean? There's a whole generation of Yemeni children afraid of Sunny days because those are the days that people die. I'm a place that gets 300+ days of sunshine a year.

We we're much worse.

It’s not a genocide. Not defending what we’ve done, but I don’t think it’s fair to compare to genocide

I would fully disagree. We targeted civilians, not in war zones at functions like weddings, funerals and other explicitly civilian gatherings. We (the US) had the intent to kill civilians, and our tolerances for civilian casualties were an order of magnitude larger than what the IDF is using.

If anything it's not comparable because what we did was worse.

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It's 100% comparable. We're talking about collateral budgets for strikes. That's exactly what happened in both of these scenarios.

It just so happens they have different budgets, but they both had allowances for allowing innocent people to be killed alongside potential targets. On one hand it's plus one two three maybe even five allowable collateral on a target. On the other hand it's 100. But it's the same thing

It's either okay to kill civilians or it's not.

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All the starving people in Yemen would disagree with the not genocide comment. Like in Palestine, a religious nationalist is committing atrocities with full US support.

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If you still believe the "Hamas" bullshit, you literally don't have a brain

The crap Israel spins about Hamas is all a pile of horse shit so they can carry out their Manifest Destiny conquer of the middle east and purge the "holy land" and cleanse it from the "lesser people" and establish a rule of "god's chosen", that's literally what Zionists have believed for over ~70 years

Hamas is literally better than most of the governments and "freedom fighters" the united states finds itself in bed with

Was this AI programmed by the fucking Israeli Peter Gibbons?