38mins in, it compares the percentages of cities destroyed in Europe in comparison to japanese cities. So if we are talking about suffering and destruction caused by bombing, Japan got wrecked a lot more. And thats without even counting the nuclear bombs btw.
just fyi: I'm well aware that the bombings hit many civillian targets and not actually advocating for the validity of those. It's mostly a shitpost and dunk on hitlerite fascists, seeing how they destroyed virtually all of eastern Europe
I interpreted that comment differently. The Dresden bombings evilness are overhyped. The primary targets of the raid were military industrial targets and were not as destructive to population centers as bombing raids in the pacific theater.
ah, I misinterpreted your comment then. afaik a lot of civilian infrastructure was destroyed by the allied bombings over all of Germany, but they were largely justified to an extent and ofc not without purpose. tho the destruction of industry - which is an important war goal - is often framed as "bombing of civilians"
Dresden… is not the example you want, it's really not. maybe don't hold up one of the worst warcrimes the allies did as if it hurt the Nazis (it did not)
"If the Germans want total war, that's what they will get"
Please don't bomb my city. I live here
Bombing cities full of civilians, with lots of architectural landmarks and little to no military value, to own the Nazis.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for not holding back against Nazis. I'm always saying that we're due for Barbara Pit pt. 2, but this one seems like a cut off your nose to spite your face situation. We all lost when Dresden was almost leveled to the ground, not just Germany.
you are correct, this thread is mostly me just getting that shitpost out of my system
Could use some more of the greatest generation attitude these days.
The Dresden bombing is overhyped, by the soviets(as proof of how "evil" the West is) and far right nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voF7KCOm6eY
38mins in, it compares the percentages of cities destroyed in Europe in comparison to japanese cities. So if we are talking about suffering and destruction caused by bombing, Japan got wrecked a lot more. And thats without even counting the nuclear bombs btw.
just fyi: I'm well aware that the bombings hit many civillian targets and not actually advocating for the validity of those. It's mostly a shitpost and dunk on hitlerite fascists, seeing how they destroyed virtually all of eastern Europe
I interpreted that comment differently. The Dresden bombings evilness are overhyped. The primary targets of the raid were military industrial targets and were not as destructive to population centers as bombing raids in the pacific theater.
ah, I misinterpreted your comment then. afaik a lot of civilian infrastructure was destroyed by the allied bombings over all of Germany, but they were largely justified to an extent and ofc not without purpose. tho the destruction of industry - which is an important war goal - is often framed as "bombing of civilians"
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Dresden… is not the example you want, it's really not. maybe don't hold up one of the worst warcrimes the allies did as if it hurt the Nazis (it did not)
"If the Germans want total war, that's what they will get"
Please don't bomb my city. I live here
Bombing cities full of civilians, with lots of architectural landmarks and little to no military value, to own the Nazis.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for not holding back against Nazis. I'm always saying that we're due for Barbara Pit pt. 2, but this one seems like a cut off your nose to spite your face situation. We all lost when Dresden was almost leveled to the ground, not just Germany.
you are correct, this thread is mostly me just getting that shitpost out of my system
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