Yes, I think people don’t like it because they think any time you use a word with a positive connotation (“benefit”), you must be speaking positively.
Another example is “brave”. Let’s talk about the woman who got shot to death while storming the US capitol. If you say she was brave, people will assume you side with Trump and the insurrectionists. But she was absolutely brave. But also deluded.
These mental shortcuts are reinforced all the time, and we really have to force ourselves to think critically (and cynically) to overcome them.
Yes, I think people don’t like it because they think any time you use a word with a positive connotation (“benefit”), you must be speaking positively.
Although I agree with your overall point, in this case I think people don't like it because that's how it's most recently been used in this context.
DeSantis, however, is continuing to defend Florida’s new curriculum, which covers a broad range of topics and includes the assertion for middle school instruction that “slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.”
What the fuck is that, holy hell. Wow I can’t believe that.
Also no wonder his support for the GOP primary is so low, he forgot to use the n-word.
their personal benefit... personal?? it's not like slaves could quit, and find another job. if they developed skills, it helped them perform their forced labour, and so the benefit is all to their owner and master.
I assume he meant that benefitted them after emancipation. Or something.
Go to the Atlanta History Museum sometime, their civil war exhibit has a whole section of "were the slaves really better after being freed" shit that's pretty disgusting.
"Yeah we freed them, but we were allowed to restructure our laws to keep them subjugated and continued to treat them as subhuman. So was it really worth it?".
Reconstruction should have, at a minimum, barred any supporter of the Confederacy from holding office again, or, even better, had the leaders hanged as traitors. Instead we let them continue just with "banned" slavery (except for as punishment for a crime).
We then allowed slave owners to write the laws to integrate formerly enslaved people into their society, and, surprise surprise, they structured the laws to benefit themselves and keep the formerly enslaved as second class. So instead of "was ending slavery worth it?". It should be asking "was keeping slavers alive worth it?" as we are still dealing with the consequences of that today.
I mean, tbf, they have a point.
During slavery they were fed, protected, and housed by their masters.
After slavery, they were simply brutalized, raped, murdered, butchered without any protection whatsoever.
So yes, slavery had benefits, and protected them from the rest of the evil southern monstrous scum.
After slavery, they were simply brutalized, raped, murdered, butchered without any protection whatsoever.
What exactly do you think masters did to "disobedient" slaves?
I'm saying freeing them didn't do that much because they were still at the mercy of the monsters.
We needed to fix the south before we left, instead we left them to suffer among the same evil that literally inspired hitler.
Right, it's not so much that the words are used incorrectly so much as it is that their use is inappropriate in this context.
I get what you're saying but I don't think she perceived she was in any danger, so I don't think she showed bravery. She was probably too stupid to understand there could be real consequences.
"Brave" would have been facing 4 years with a president who made her uncomfortable instead of throwing a big tantrum.
you would think that a "language model" would have "connotation" high on its list of priorities - being that is a huge part of the form and function of language.
Not how it works.
It’s just a fancy version of that “predict the next word” feature smartphones have. Like if you just kept tapping the next word.
They don’t even have real parameters, only black box bullshit hidden parameters.
I know, I was pointing out the irony.
I'm convinced it's only purpose is actually to give tech C-level and VPs some bullshit to say for roughly 18-36 months now that "blockchain" and "pandemic disruption" are dead.
Exactly correct, I agree. LLMs will change the world, but 90% of purported use cases are nothing but hot air.
But when you can tell your phone “go find a picture of an eggplant, put a smiley face on it, and send it to Bill”, that’s going to be pretty neat. And it’s coming in the next decade. Of course that requires a different model than we have now (text to instruction, not text to text). But it’s coming.
LLMs don't know what words mean, much less the connotations they have.
Yes, I think people don’t like it because they think any time you use a word with a positive connotation (“benefit”), you must be speaking positively.
Another example is “brave”. Let’s talk about the woman who got shot to death while storming the US capitol. If you say she was brave, people will assume you side with Trump and the insurrectionists. But she was absolutely brave. But also deluded.
These mental shortcuts are reinforced all the time, and we really have to force ourselves to think critically (and cynically) to overcome them.
Although I agree with your overall point, in this case I think people don't like it because that's how it's most recently been used in this context.
What the fuck is that, holy hell. Wow I can’t believe that.
Also no wonder his support for the GOP primary is so low, he forgot to use the n-word.
their personal benefit... personal?? it's not like slaves could quit, and find another job. if they developed skills, it helped them perform their forced labour, and so the benefit is all to their owner and master.
I assume he meant that benefitted them after emancipation. Or something.
Go to the Atlanta History Museum sometime, their civil war exhibit has a whole section of "were the slaves really better after being freed" shit that's pretty disgusting.
"Yeah we freed them, but we were allowed to restructure our laws to keep them subjugated and continued to treat them as subhuman. So was it really worth it?".
Reconstruction should have, at a minimum, barred any supporter of the Confederacy from holding office again, or, even better, had the leaders hanged as traitors. Instead we let them continue just with "banned" slavery (except for as punishment for a crime).
We then allowed slave owners to write the laws to integrate formerly enslaved people into their society, and, surprise surprise, they structured the laws to benefit themselves and keep the formerly enslaved as second class. So instead of "was ending slavery worth it?". It should be asking "was keeping slavers alive worth it?" as we are still dealing with the consequences of that today.
I mean, tbf, they have a point.
During slavery they were fed, protected, and housed by their masters.
After slavery, they were simply brutalized, raped, murdered, butchered without any protection whatsoever.
So yes, slavery had benefits, and protected them from the rest of the evil southern monstrous scum.
What exactly do you think masters did to "disobedient" slaves?
I'm saying freeing them didn't do that much because they were still at the mercy of the monsters.
We needed to fix the south before we left, instead we left them to suffer among the same evil that literally inspired hitler.
Right, it's not so much that the words are used incorrectly so much as it is that their use is inappropriate in this context.
I get what you're saying but I don't think she perceived she was in any danger, so I don't think she showed bravery. She was probably too stupid to understand there could be real consequences.
"Brave" would have been facing 4 years with a president who made her uncomfortable instead of throwing a big tantrum.
you would think that a "language model" would have "connotation" high on its list of priorities - being that is a huge part of the form and function of language.
Not how it works.
It’s just a fancy version of that “predict the next word” feature smartphones have. Like if you just kept tapping the next word.
They don’t even have real parameters, only black box bullshit hidden parameters.
I know, I was pointing out the irony.
I'm convinced it's only purpose is actually to give tech C-level and VPs some bullshit to say for roughly 18-36 months now that "blockchain" and "pandemic disruption" are dead.
Exactly correct, I agree. LLMs will change the world, but 90% of purported use cases are nothing but hot air.
But when you can tell your phone “go find a picture of an eggplant, put a smiley face on it, and send it to Bill”, that’s going to be pretty neat. And it’s coming in the next decade. Of course that requires a different model than we have now (text to instruction, not text to text). But it’s coming.
LLMs don't know what words mean, much less the connotations they have.